Discussion » Who Is The Greatest Briton Ever?

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Posted by Victor Menendez, 18:56, 29th October 2002:
 

Poll:

  • Isembard Kingdom Brunel
  • Winston Churchill
  • Charles Darwin
  • William Shakespeare
  • Diana, ex-princess of Wales
  • Sir Isaac Newton
  • Queen Elizabeth I
  • John Lennon
  • Oliver Cromwell
  • Admiral Horatio Nelson
Thoughts people.
Posted by jeff, 19:00, 29th October 2002:
 
but david beckham isnt on that list.. how can that be fair?! (innit)
Posted by msmissy, 19:08, 29th October 2002:
 
Can you be an ex-princess of Wales?
Posted by cal, 19:09, 29th October 2002:
 
tough between darwin and newton
Posted by Sul, 19:45, 29th October 2002:
 
Newton hands down
Posted by zxenor, 20:28, 29th October 2002:
 
i agree, newton rox0rz
Posted by November Eclectica, 20:52, 29th October 2002:
 
I concur .... Newton
Posted by Grim..., 21:48, 29th October 2002:
 
I wanted to vote for Tony Blair...
Posted by Sul, 22:17, 29th October 2002:
 
And I wanted to vote for me but I'm not on the list either
Posted by chandler, 22:20, 29th October 2002:
 
But where are all the votes for the people's princess? :D

Did you see the programme about her tonight?
I could only watch a few minutes of it, it made me sick. It was like watching a car crash.

*Boom Boom*



(well more accuratly *Screech, Crash, Boooooom*)
Posted by cal, 23:15, 29th October 2002:
 
why the votes for Shakespeare? he hasn't advanced the world in any really useful way. if he weren't born, someone else would have been the focus of literature (chaurcer?)
Posted by arsepuppy, 08:37, 30th October 2002:
 
cal: Yeah, but shakespeare DID have an impact on today's society. If you read his works, you will find that on top of being a HUGE influence on literature since, he also advanced the English language and coined many phrases and stuff that have become part of our language today. If Chaucer were to be our main literal focus, we would possibly still be speaking in a more primitive way as seen in "The Wife of Bath" etc and have a less articulate and more starched language, possibly still using all that "Ark at thy Quente" stuff. Having said that, this is all bollocks if you believe the Christopher Marlowe Conspiracy Theory ;)
Posted by arsepuppy, 08:38, 30th October 2002:
 
Darwin??? Oy Vey.......
Posted by arsepuppy, 08:45, 30th October 2002:
 
Same goes for Lennon. Wrote a few good songs, but only with McCartney due to the two-way quality control filtery thing between them. With the Beatles he co-wrote some good stuff, but his solo work was self-indulgent hypocritical arse (Case in point: Imagine), with the execption of a few tunes. Also a shit in real life both to his family (i.e Cynthia and Julian) and to his colleagues (His taunting of Brian Epstein and his sexual orientation)...

Anyway, enough of that... where's Tim Westwood? He needs his bigups! ;)
Posted by arsepuppy, 09:13, 30th October 2002:
 
I think I should change my handle to "Dan: Thread Killer!"
Posted by Grim..., 09:29, 30th October 2002:
 
Drop da bomb!

BCWRBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Posted by Grim..., 09:30, 30th October 2002:
 
Cal - you could say the same about Newton - if he hadn't been around, someone else would have figured gravity and such out...
Posted by arsepuppy, 09:57, 30th October 2002:
 
It's off the Meatrack!! 3 minus 2!!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!
Posted by chris, 12:50, 30th October 2002:
 
Where is Guy Fawkes? He tried to blow up the bigwigs - that deserves props!
Posted by chandler, 12:54, 30th October 2002:
 
He was in the top 100
Posted by ilovebeerme, 13:34, 30th October 2002:
 
Darwin - win
Posted by chandler, 13:39, 30th October 2002:
 
Diana - Die
Posted by Victor Menendez, 14:00, 30th October 2002:
 
Die indeed Di
Posted by chris, 14:05, 30th October 2002:
 
you might be a bit late there lads ;)
Posted by chandler, 14:06, 30th October 2002:
 
evil never dies
Posted by Redmaiden, 19:42, 30th October 2002:
 
I watched a tiny bit of the BBC proggie but switched off in disgust when I found out that Cliff Richard and David Beckham were on the list, I mean AS IF
Posted by chandler, 20:03, 30th October 2002:
 
apparently only 30,000 people actually voted. meaning you could get in the top 100 with less than 300 votes. Michael Crawford fan club all submitted. therefore he got to 17. Its all a big farce.
Posted by Sul, 00:59, 31st October 2002:
 
Darwin is winning? I'm sorry, but although I respect he's theories and he's collections... well I cant wait to see them. I really can't! But one theory and a collection of fucking fish heads is nothing compared to the 3 laws of motion!
Posted by Sul, 01:18, 31st October 2002:
 
"Cal - you could say the same about Newton - if he hadn't been around, someone else would have figured gravity and such out..."

Yes Matt, this much is true. But it steps down to what you think is more important. Its true that anyone can write... christ I can write, not very well but I can. To be a genius in the realms of physics takes someone of great standards, a great person. Hence "great brit". Stephen Hawking should be up there too. That man deserves a medal for everything hes done. He's been through a fucking shit-load of problems, yet he will still come out with people remembering what he has done not the fact that he's a disabled person doing this.

Sorry. does everyone get what I mean? I realy cant word it right now.

But IMHO, and it isnt too much as you know, but to figure out the mysteries of the world is a far better craft than to induce them.
Posted by Sul, 01:22, 31st October 2002:
 
errrr if you get what I mean
Posted by chandler, 08:09, 31st October 2002:
 
sorry sul but in a few decades, a conversation about Hawkin with most people will be "Who?" followed by "You, Know, the guy in the wheelchair that talked funny"

Sad but True.
Posted by cal, 08:44, 31st October 2002:
 
chandler: perhaps, but i think i disagree. he's much more likely to be remembered as sul suggested - just a great scientist - and history will gloss over his disability. perhaps. but then look at turing.
Posted by Grim..., 08:50, 31st October 2002:
 
And Naepolian.
Posted by Grim..., 08:51, 31st October 2002:
 
I also noticed that Florence Nightingale was ommitted.
Posted by ilovebeerme, 08:58, 31st October 2002:
 
Nice one Darwins winning. Someone should tell his turtle.
Posted by chandler, 09:23, 31st October 2002:
 
Florence Nightingale

she was in the top 100
Posted by Grim..., 12:19, 31st October 2002:
 
THAT GODLESS SATANIST IS WINNING?

HERACY!

=]
Posted by Gary, 13:10, 31st October 2002:
 
Why only a few votes for Winston Churchill? The man led us through WWII and has spoken some of the most inspirational sound-bytes of all time!
Posted by chandler, 13:49, 31st October 2002:
 
cos he was fat. and no one likes a fatty.
;)
Posted by arsepuppy, 13:53, 31st October 2002:
 
Still don't see why everyone is up Darwin's arse all of a sudden. What has he done apart from coming up with a THEORY? (not even a discovery like Newton did). Seriously though... Darwin as Greatest Briton Ever??? wrong wrong wrong.

In fact, looking at the poll, he was the least influential towards society today, and yes, that includes That Parasite Diana (or "Not My Princess", I'm Welsh btw).

Is it because his theory involved monkeys? Cheap heat mongerer... :)
Posted by arsepuppy, 13:55, 31st October 2002:
 
Here's a theory...

Townies are decended from moss.

Does that make me Greatest Briton? No.
Posted by arsepuppy, 13:58, 31st October 2002:
 
Would Kylie qualify as she's half Welsh? (Mum's from Maesteg)

If not, I pick David Icke. Or Mark Morrison.
Posted by Grim..., 14:03, 31st October 2002:
 
You can't be greatish Briton, you fool - you're Welsh!

Geez, I don't think you'll ever qualify for 'best goegraphic'...
Posted by arsepuppy, 14:06, 31st October 2002:
 
hee hee :)
Posted by arsepuppy, 14:08, 31st October 2002:
 
Bollocks! I really wanted to go in for 'Best Goegraphic' as well! :)
Posted by Victor Menendez, 18:30, 31st October 2002:
 
Is this irony or stupidity? i can't tell

I once stole mark morrison's coat
Posted by chandler, 19:41, 31st October 2002:
 
"Not My Princess", I'm Welsh btw

Yes she was, she was the Princess of Wales.

And wales could bloody have her as far as I'm concerned.

or did I miss the point.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 19:52, 31st October 2002:
 
Im worried about this line:

You can't be greatish Briton, you fool - you're Welsh!
Posted by Victor Menendez, 19:53, 31st October 2002:
 
But i'm more worried about the inclusion of Bob Geldof and Bono, while worthy in themselves, they were both born in Dublin, which as far as i know is not now, has ever been or ever will be, British
Posted by Victor Menendez, 19:54, 31st October 2002:
 
Help, help i'm talking in italics, save me cal!
Posted by Sul, 20:01, 31st October 2002:
 
Chris2/Vic: I think they mentioned the thing about the inclusion of Bono being a bit of a cock up on the show. Can't remember.
Posted by Sul, 20:03, 31st October 2002:
 
Argh! Did someone not close their i tags?
Posted by Sul, 20:04, 31st October 2002:
 
lets try that
Posted by Sul, 20:06, 31st October 2002:
 
thaaaats better
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:11, 31st October 2002:
 
testing!
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:11, 31st October 2002:
 
i did close my I tags, i did, honest!
Posted by Sul, 20:15, 31st October 2002:
 
no you didnt, you put an extra one in
Posted by Sul, 20:16, 31st October 2002:
 
FOOL :p
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:38, 31st October 2002:
 
whoopsie
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:38, 31st October 2002:
 
daisy
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:38, 31st October 2002:
 
arrrghhh
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:38, 31st October 2002:
 
I broke it again
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:39, 31st October 2002:
 
see
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:39, 31st October 2002:
 
Hold on, i can fix this
Posted by Sul, 20:43, 31st October 2002:
 
perhaps this is the fix you're looking for

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN...

;)
Posted by chandler, 20:49, 31st October 2002:
 
wow does this mean I can break stuff and piss everyone off?
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:49, 31st October 2002:
 
I cant fix it, i am to stupid to live, someone help me (again) and explain italics in words of few syllables
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:50, 31st October 2002:
 
Arrrrgggghhhh what the fuck is happening now!

Is that you chandler? getting revenge for all those wind-ups? , turd :)
Posted by chandler, 20:51, 31st October 2002:
 
apparently so
Posted by chandler, 20:51, 31st October 2002:
 
all fixed now
Posted by Victor Menendez, 20:52, 31st October 2002:
 
:0
Posted by Sul, 20:52, 31st October 2002:
 
this actually is making me piss myself at work :D
Posted by chandler, 20:53, 31st October 2002:
 
you need to edit your first italic post so that it has at the end. without the spaces. Then we will be back to normal.
Posted by chandler, 20:54, 31st October 2002:
 
Sul, I think that pissing yourself at work is a disiplinary offence.

Come to think of it, what are you doing at work, its nearly 9pm!
Posted by chandler, 20:58, 31st October 2002:
 
Question is, do font tags work? *mischeivous grin*
Posted by Sul, 20:58, 31st October 2002:
 
awww I was drawing him a instructions on a little blackboard :(

If the pregnant women can get away with it so can the piss heads!

I work strange hours, its very annoying.
Posted by chandler, 20:58, 31st October 2002:
 
and the answer is Yes. :D
Posted by Sul, 20:59, 31st October 2002:
 
ROFL!
Posted by Sul, 20:59, 31st October 2002:
 
hmmm
Posted by chandler, 21:00, 31st October 2002:
 
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hahahahaha
Posted by chandler, 21:01, 31st October 2002:
 
Note to self: Get a Life
Posted by Sul, 21:01, 31st October 2002:
 
yes get a life :p
Posted by chandler, 21:02, 31st October 2002:
 
Ahh, back to normal?
Posted by Sul, 21:02, 31st October 2002:
 
HA HA HA!
Posted by chandler, 21:03, 31st October 2002:
 
for some reason that stubborn little i tag is being a bastard. Ah, unless he used an italic tag. hmmmm.
Posted by Sul, 21:03, 31st October 2002:
 
Ok no more, please, my eyes hurt. I feel like Ive been on a geocities site.
Posted by chandler, 21:04, 31st October 2002:
 
Well?
Posted by chandler, 21:04, 31st October 2002:
 
I know what you mean sul! I cant figure out this bastard italic tag though. I want normal text back!
Posted by Sul, 21:09, 31st October 2002:
 
Im not in italics!
Posted by Victor Menendez, 21:33, 31st October 2002:
 
Nice work boys

testing

Still testing!
Posted by Victor Menendez, 21:33, 31st October 2002:
 
See, he can be taught!
Posted by chandler, 22:43, 31st October 2002:
 
its all still italics you gits.
Posted by cal, 00:12, 1st November 2002:
 
there, all fixed

watch it, or i'll remove your HTML rights (i can do it on a per-person basis)
Posted by chandler, 08:24, 1st November 2002:
 
Oh No! Now this whole topic looks really stupid.
And so do we. :(
Posted by Sul, 11:21, 1st November 2002:
 
Id just like to point out that I only ever fixed it, it was THOSE TWO that broke it. *squirmy little fucker*

And yes we do look like idiots now.
Posted by chandler, 11:45, 1st November 2002:
 
Yeah Yeah sul, I saw you trying paste porn pictures into the posts. Dont try and deny it.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 18:23, 1st November 2002:
 
Who do you think the worst Spaniard is?

I vote for Geri Halliwell
Posted by angel_mouse, 19:14, 1st November 2002:
 
shhh victor!! we can try and dis-own her on the fact that shes spanish. ha ha poor spanish bastards.
Posted by cal, 23:44, 1st November 2002:
 
The Mirror are doing a worst person in britain poll. been going on for a few days i think.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 09:23, 2nd November 2002:
 
Treacherous mirror! i'd rather gouge out my eyes with a rusty spoon and pour vinegar in the raw bleeding sockets
Posted by chris, 23:25, 2nd November 2002:
 
someone seems to of raped the poll...
Posted by Victor Menendez, 09:55, 3rd November 2002:
 
eek, least its not yoko ono
Posted by Victor Menendez, 11:52, 25th November 2002:
 
*Bump*

How sadly off the pulse of the nation we were on this one.
Posted by chandler, 12:15, 25th November 2002:
 
Those that voted for diana (222,000 people)dont deserve to have a pulse
Posted by Victor Menendez, 12:35, 25th November 2002:
 
Rather unusually, i agree 100% chandler
Posted by Redmaiden, 01:11, 26th November 2002:
 
here here chnadler
Posted by arsepuppy, 11:04, 26th November 2002:
 
Bruce Campbell should be Greatest Briton. Despite being American and stuff.


**** CONTROVERSIAL COMMENT ALERT! ****

He is also both cooler and harder than ninjas and pirates combined!

**** END OF CONTROVERSIAL COMMENT ALERT! ****
Posted by ilovebeerme, 15:54, 26th November 2002:
 
woah. That is pretty tough. The ultimate combat. Ash vs Blackbeard vs A small sweet 6 year old girl with no arms (ninja stand in as he shit himself and buggered of to crochet class)
Posted by Uncle Moc, 13:38, 16th December 2002:
 
"Yes Matt, this much is true. But it steps down to what you think is more important. Its true that anyone can write... christ I can write, not very well but I can. To be a genius in the realms of physics takes someone of great standards, a great person."

Well, that of course suggests that physics is intrinsicly better than Engliah Lit. And, not just that, but anyone can write in the same way that anyone can do physics. I mean, man, I could probably do one of those circuits with a switch and a battery and a light bulb, or drop two things of different weights, but I'm no good at fractals and time dilation. Simiiarly, just about anyone could write some stuff, but I don't think they'd be very good at the whole Literary Canon business.

So yeah. English Lit is blatantly better than Physics. Vote Shakespeare!