iamcal.com Since May 2000

• Happy new year!
• Newbie topic - May 2016
• Newbie topic - April 2016
• Newbie topic - March 2016
• Newbie topic - February 2016
• Newbie topic - January 2016
• Newbie topic - November 2015
• Newbie topic - August 2015
• Newbie topic - July 2015
• Newbie topic - May 2015
• Newbie topic - April 2015
• Newbie topic - March 2015
• Newbie topic - September 2014
• Newbie topic - December 2014
• Newbie topic - October 2014
• Newbie topic - August 2014
• Newbie topic - July 2014
• Newbie topic - June 2014
• Newbie topic - May 2014
• Hello!

Its been good to know you all as the day of our demise approaches.

im going to the march on saturday. whoo hoo

What march?

the Anti War march on the 15th February in Londinium.

Nice one, im going drinking on saturday.

Come to think of it, that march is probably the safest place to be. nobody blows up their own allies. (Apart from the Americans)

P.S. No offence Nov :)

I'll watch out for any americans who are holding weapons and looking at them confused as to which end is which. No offence Nov

I was reading a book last night and a chapter talked about Biological warfare and one of the only countries to use it has been, surprise surprise. America. in 1971 they flew over cuba and sprayed swine fever in an attempt to destabilise that naughty Castro's economy. half a million pigs had to be destroyed.

i might go to the demo if it's not raining

in fact i wont it is Arsenal v's Man u at 12.00 so i'll give that a miss!

Are you sure, i though we (Bolton) had man u on saturday?

no it is a cup w/end and it is (i got it the wrong way round)
Manu v's Arsenal in the fa cuP

Ah, fair enough. week off for the boys!

None taken.

what time is it where you are nov?
it must be real early?

It is 6:36 AM, yes very early. I have my coffee, so I am happy. I was awake at 5:00 this morning because my lover wouldn't let me sleep in. *pout*

what do you do at work Nov?

I am a research analyst. I gather data for proposals and projects and also maintain the company data base with resumes, project summaries, etc.

I also lend a hand in coordinating proposals, setting up meetings, editing, formatting and all that jazz.

So, a little bit of everything. I've been with this company for 7 years. Started out as a receptionist and worked my way up to now. What do you do?

I design web sites and multimedia. I have been for three years now, started as chief monkey boy and still am.

6.30 start is a bit nasty.

It is a nasty start, but I am a morning person. On Saturdays and Sundays I am up and about by 8:00. I don't get to bed until about 11:00 at night and that is if I don't go out.

6.30am !!

What's that like, never seen it. Empty streets and rolling tumbleweeds?

I live close to Washington DC,so by 6:30 it is full of cars, beeping horns and people who can't drive worth a shit.

Has heathrow really shut? I can't see anything on the news!?

I live 5 mins away from the airport! Don't scare me, pls!

it has loads of tanks at it and bored soldiers. dont think they have shut it. but they think terrorists might have a surface to air missile that can be fired out of a rocket launcher thing. AA heat seeking one that would blow up a plane that was taking off or landing. but they dont really know. maybe it is all just PR. they are going to be there for days. there is no confirmation that there is any such device at all.

it could destroy a plane from up to 3 miles away apparently

It's all propaganda, I mean what exactly do they intend to use the tanks for? They say they expect some sort of surface-to-air missile to be used, so are they going to tank missile the offending terrorist who is standing with his rocket launcher?

It would be like a real live version of the tank cheat on Grant Theft Auto.

not tanks - just APCs

they are mainly patrolling to stop people getting inside the outer fence

My mum and brother fly to LA at 3.30pm today from heathrow.... my gran is crying...

Year before last, I flew out of new york abour 5 hours before that plane crash in Queens, then missed a bomb scare a digbeth bus station, I was on a train instead of using my national express ticket. That whole trip was pretty fucked up.

My sister and her boyfriend is flying out of heathrow to go to barcelona for the weekend. I 'm worried about her. this shit is pretty scarey stuff. Good Old Tony is gonna tell us what is going on this morning.....

really? for the first time in six years.

i think my friend sums it up best with this statement:
" man is it me or is the government insane? 400 troops and some fucking tanks to patrol heathrow? what in the name of all that's sane are they playing at? do they think we're stupid opr something? you can't contain terrorists with armoured infantry! all they're doing is ham fistedly trying to create a climate of fear in which the public will become more receptive to their bullshit propaganda, and somehow think this has something to do with iraq! i hope everyone sees through this stunt as the idiotic move, typical of an idiot government which makes up and steals "evidence", that it is."

Ask your friend if he (or she) can see their hand in front of their face.

Jeff - was that Chris by any chance?

light link relief
www.blacktriangle.org/wmd/

Well, that tawt Blair is refusing to saying anything. Its all a PR stunt isn't it? Theres probably no fucking threats at all. Its just Blair getting us all worried.

I wish I'd never voted for the wanker now.

PS: The link above doesn't work.

Rosie, click again and read it carefully

hahahah thats good and the links take you to very suitable destinations too

Boy - I feel like a fool.....

Some one got me yesterday with the "Please can you call Liz Royal". i called the number and got through to buckingham palace. I felt like a right muppet!

hahahaha

Tel number is 02079304832 if you want to try it on someone you know!

err, i dont get it

What don't you get cal?

Call the number cal.....

no, not the number - the url

OH! :-)

if they are gonna blow the world up, i wish they'd hurry up and just do it. All this faffing about is getting a bit boring now.

ahh - i see now. i just assumed it was a 404/dns failure

If they are gonna blow the world up, im glad i have no pension or savings.

LOL! Me too! I'm in a considerable amount of debt and if the world goes tits up i won't have to worry about all that shit anymore. I don't think I'd like to have anything chemical dropping down on me, but one big bang would be easy to deal with.

jeff, no offense, but i think your friend is an idiot.

As much as some people dislike Blair, it is proposterious to say that he has planned any of this to create fear within the public.

If Blair hadn't put the country on alert and got the amry to patrol the airports, and some idiot blew up a plane, no dought he would be critised by the SAME PEOPLE for doing nothing about it.

He is trying to stop the terrorists, and being advised on what to do by the Secret Service, they, in my opinion, seem to be doing a good job at the moment.

Ditto, which backs up my belief that there is no financial benefit of being in credit these days, its all about the overdraft baby, i'm finding life a constant exercise in blagging and how far i can push my bank.

On the topic of the whole Heathrow thing I find the mass public reaction to this thing really interesting. I think this is probably the first event in my lifetime that i've seen such widespread cynicism over potential propaganda.

I'm in two minds, part of me can't help going with the cynicism. I would honestly have thought that if they knew something serious was going to happen, the first we'd hear about it is when a more targetted team had dealt with it.

Such a significant military presence has to have some kind of symbolism behind it, this could mean its a psychological deterrent to the terrorists, or a gentle reminder to the public of what being threatened and being on a state of alert means.

Gordon Brown has a glass eye. I can't believe I never knew that. That means that Two members of the cabinet only have one working eye between them

Amazing

Hmmm, slogan:

"New Labour: The blind leading the partially eyed"

LOl.
V. Good!

arsepuppy, it wasnt chris

oh. ok.

p.s Jeff - I shall be around Leicester this weekend....

BUMDOOOGGGG WEEEEKKKEEENNNDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ap, gonna send you an email..

um. ok.

sent

I agree with Jeff's friend.
If Blair got a warning serious enough to roll the Military into Heathrow, then the airport would be shut.

Yeah, cos closing down an international airport is a realistic option.

The police have caught 2 "terrorist suspects" at heathrow.

I don't know what the hell to think about all this crap.

are you kidding, how fucking stupid do you have to be to go to heathrow as a terrorist at the moment?

well, they are only suspects. the poor bastards prolly haven't done anything wrong. They might have been taking a piss up the fence....

And the police got their cocks confused with surface to air missles. Happens to me all the time.

Yeah. you wish Sul!!
:-)

Nothing on the BBC news ticker as yet.

Go to sky news....

And trust rupert murdoch? I'd rather shave my scrotum with a crusty towel.

Oh come on Vic - they've got photos and everything on there.

Men held near Heathrow

Police have arrested two men near Heathrow Airport under the Terrorism Act 2000.

The men were detained in the Hounslow area of west London by anti-terrorist police.

The incident is not believed to be connected to the mass security operation at Heathrow and was thought to be a precautionary measure.

Police are believed to have stopped their car during routine checks.

The men are in custody at a west London police station.

They are not believed to be linked to any plot to attack the airport.

Well thats bollocks!

This is from sky news..

Two men have been arrested near Heathrow Airport under anti-terrorist laws.

They were stopped in a car near the perimeter fence and held in what police said was a "precautionary measure."


Early reports said the men were of North African origin.

oh dear, sounds like Bowling for Columbine to me. all the Africansied Honey bees scare stories

beware the black men

"are you kidding, how fucking stupid do you have to be to go to heathrow as a terrorist at the moment"

roughly as stupid as being willing to blow yourself up, i would imagaine

I don't know whether or not this is relevant, but I was rushed to hospital in the summer (appendicts- spelt right?) and there was a women who the dirties had nicked at the airport for drug smuggling. Her whole stomach was full up with coke. The rubbers they were in had got stuck in her intestine and the doctors were worried they were gonna explode. I could see the x-ray of her stomach on the light board thing from my bed and I could see the condoms full of gear. It was kinda interesting....But nasty.

appendicitis?

appendix?

The first one. I think.....
:-)

Appendectomy?

Appendices?

hello. i am jess's friend who has weird and radical views about the government. I would describe myself as dashingly handsome, sophisticated, intelligent (although very bad at spelling, but who cares about spelling) and, well generally way out of any of your leagues. I didn't want to sign up to post a reply here, but I felt I had to, if only to waste some time. Also, I just wanted whoever it was who called me an idiot to realise that they may have made the biggest mistake of their lives. I still think that the government are hugely overplaying the terrorist threat with their tanks and other such penis substitutes; I'm not disputing that there is a threat, only that the best course of action (deploying secret service agents) wouldn't have quite as juicy a propaganda value. In case you haven't noticed, the proportion of the public now believing that there is a link between Osama farty pants Bin Laden and big bad Saddam has shot up, even though there really is no evidence at all. In fact Osama even slagged off Saddam (I belive he called him something like a socialist infidel) in his latest message to the masses, but I guess that bit wasn't the bit that big Tony decided to highlight in his speech.

You now sound like a bigger idiot.

he sure does

aww thanks guys, you've made my day!
It's always nice to be repeatedly called an idiot by someone you don't know, it gives me a fuzzy feeling inside. I especially like it when arguments come down to the "your mum" level, which I don't think we've reached just yet, but here's hoping eh?

i don't think you're an idiot at all - i agree. james - do you seriously think that the government doesn't do stupid things for PR?

but shane, your momma's so fat...

yous guysz sux. i am well 13373r than yous.

There with my internet introduction out of the way I would just like to say a couple of things.

'Roughly as stupid as being willing to blow yourself up, i would imagaine'

Stating that people are stupid just because they hold convictions stronger than your own is idiotic. After all people with extreme views can be more intelligent than you, and are not even neccessarily irrational, or hot-headed.

Secondly I would like to concur with Shane's point about there being no evidence for a link between bin Laden and Saddam. Saddam leads a broadly secular dictatorship, whereas bin Laden is a misguided Sunni extremist.

Secret service agents would have been the most sensible way to go about this. If a perimeter around Heathrow was to be created light tanks are no use, I am sure many of you will agree that people are much better at creating a blockade than machines, which have a high 'person-density' and poor visiblity and thus guard a limited area.

This was nothing other than manipulation of people who don't know any better.

I was calling shane an idiot for the
"dashingly handsome, sophisticated, intelligent...and, well generally way out of any of your leagues"
comment

his views are not all idiotic

I was just introducing myself....jeez..I just didn't want any of you getting your hopes up or anything

I'm just jealous

"Stating that people are stupid just because they hold convictions stronger than your own is idiotic"

not the convictions - just wanting to die. imo, they undervalue their own lives

So I guess the govenment made up the arrest of someone carrying a live hand grenade at Gatwick aswell?

oh

and your mum

"So I guess the govenment made up the arrest of someone carrying a live hand grenade at Gatwick aswell?"

walk around any part of london and check everyone and i'm sure you'll find a bunch carrying sub machine guns and the like. not exactly a huge terrorist threat compared to everyday happenings...

I'm not saying i believe this, but for the sake of conjecture, you could note how it seems a little convenient that a random pops up with a grenade to give Blunkett a neat "I told you so" sound-bite.

The guy went through customs hence he wasn't re-boarding and if he was he would have to be checked again, so although he had the opportunity to blow up a plane for the entire distance of his journey at least from Barbados to Gatwick he instead decided to walk into a major airport holding it. I mean from a logistical sense alone if their was an intention to damage the airport it would be easier and presumably more effective to just walk in with it rather than traveling from Barbados, and if the intent was to bring down a plane then why didn't he blow up the one he was on.

In the governments defense though, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Blunkett stated "it reinforces that we really do have a problem because that's the other thing people have been saying - that we are making it all up" and its true, the discovery of this does give the government motive, but likewise when you hear him say that you can't help questioning the convenience of the whole affair.

but cal didnt you hear? theres terrorists everywhere, they're all out to get us... and your mum... everywhere...

oooh thanks for rising to the challenge, james is it?

your mum!

there, i've said it, and you know what? I feel much better for it, thankyou!!

and as regards to the guy with the grenade - i bet they only caught him cus of the increased security (i.e. things like this regulalry go unnnoticed), he was probably just some mentalist, or maybe he just has a lucky grenade. who knows? He was hardly part of some massive terror operation was he? Did they chase him down the road with some tanks before he decided to give up?

Public hysteria is a very ugly thing, and it is usually fuelled by government, either purposefully, or by incredibe lack of judgement. Surely the best thing to do in times of threat is to have a very credible, very trained but secret protection agency? Public panic only means that terrorists don't actually have to do anything to achieve their goals: to make us afraid, and to distrupt our lives. We can't do anything about this, so why have the government done their best to scare the shit out of us? Are they doing it on purpose or just incompetant? You see, I do believe there is a real terrorist threat, and it will only increase if we do bad things to people in other countries.

Hmm... I'm going to resist any temptation to wade in on this debate...

Me too, that shane's way out of my league.

shane -

"i bet they only caught him cus of the increased security"

That's the whole point - the increased security is oviously doing its job - even if it *is* a common thing, do we really want people bringing in hand grenades into the country.

I can see him in the police station being interviewed

"Sorry guv, it was just my lucky grenade, i carry in just incase!"

he might not be associated with al-quenta (spelling?), however it shows that there could be problems with security and that having the extra may work in stopping a tragic iccident happening.

Also, the guy was coming from Venezuela, changing at gatwick and flying out to bangladesh.

plane blows up out of venezuela = no-one gives a toss.

plane blows up out of gatwick = everyone gives a toss.

I dont trust a word the government say, they see us as a crop to be milked, our money and skills and pay little regard to our needs and wishes.

That is of course my own personal opinion and if you dont like it i'll set my mum on ya

"as a crop to be milked"

nice metaphor!

Can I milk your mum?

ooh they've (allegedly) arrested people of Iraqi origin at Leeds/Bradford airport today - either Al Qaieda has coordinated lots of terrorist attacks or Blair is faking it

Jesus Christ! I was cutting some cheese and i cut my hand and I bled on the cheese and now there's blood all over the cheese and all over my hand

well don't waste the cheese

or the blood