Discussion » Anti-war March

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Posted by Redmaiden, 16:40, 15th February 2003:
 
4 in the afternoon and all is quietare you all out marching?
Posted by Gary, 16:45, 15th February 2003:
 
I'm not marching - the sooner we bomb that bastard in Iraq the better.
Posted by cal, 17:37, 15th February 2003:
 
i've only just got up.
Posted by cal, 17:39, 15th February 2003:
 
any particular reason you think that gary?
Posted by Redmaiden, 22:30, 15th February 2003:
 
I'm so bored >_<
Posted by cal, 23:07, 15th February 2003:
 
it's *very* quiet here today

if you're extra bored, i'm on MSN: cal_henderson@hotmail.com
Posted by Redmaiden, 23:31, 15th February 2003:
 
woo all the men want me on msn ;-)
Posted by chandler, 23:32, 15th February 2003:
 
I was marching all day. lots of people. I've never seen so many coaches.
Posted by Redmaiden, 23:34, 15th February 2003:
 
what did your banner say?
Posted by Gary, 00:32, 16th February 2003:
 
Yes Cal, in fact, I have quite a few reasons why. But, in light of previous "sensitive" topics on this site, there's no way I'm prepared to discuss those reasons here, and then watch as people on this site use them as an excuse to jump on me. Besides, I really don't have the time to sit here and defend my views against those who I'd inevitably upset – and I'm sure you wouldn't want me to either.
Posted by cal, 01:34, 16th February 2003:
 
you're saying you wouldn't post your views because you don't want to have to defend them? or because you think other people's views are so unimportnat that they are unecessary? you seem to have alot of trouble when people critisim your viewpoints - is that because you can't justify them, because you can't understand other peoples or because you take it personally?

i'm genuinely interested here - why don't you want to start an argument? isn't it good that we all have strongly held beliefs, however different or weird?

hmm. it is late. not a good time to be thinking about such things.
Posted by Gary, 02:01, 16th February 2003:
 
There's no use trying to provoke me, Cal - and that is blatantly what you've just tried to do throughout that entire post. I won't rise to it. I've made my reasons for not posting my views on this particular subject crystal clear, so I'll keep them to myself, at least on this site any way.
Posted by cal, 12:25, 16th February 2003:
 
urgh.

do what you want.
Posted by Redmaiden, 13:32, 16th February 2003:
 
just because you may have differing views to some of the people is no reason to hide them. It is possible to have a discussion about them. Nobody is right or wrong about the subject of war and I think it is healthy to talk about them no matter how extreme.
Posted by Leo, 13:34, 16th February 2003:
 
I was on the march, it was crazy, although it wasn't really a march - more like a mass shuffle. It was so slow!
Posted by Leo, 13:36, 16th February 2003:
 
I was on the march, it was crazy, although it wasn't really a march - more like a mass shuffle. It was so slow!
Posted by chandler, 14:14, 16th February 2003:
 
Gary is right. if he says anything then I'll only attack him about it. it is best for all concerned if we keep it to ourselves!
Posted by chandler, 14:15, 16th February 2003:
 
"Nobody is right or wrong about the subject of war"

I am ;)

"I think it is healthy to talk about them no matter how extreme"

Did ya catch the whole fox hunting debacle? man did we go too far on that one, as I'm sure gary will agree!! ;)
Posted by cal, 14:23, 16th February 2003:
 
i want to go on an "anti war shuffle" :)
Posted by Gary, 14:29, 16th February 2003:
 
Gary is right. if he says anything then I'll only attack him about it. it is best for all concerned if we keep it to ourselves!

Thanks, Chay. I wasn't specifically referring to the previous discussions we had on Iraq and on fox hunting, when I said people on this site would use them as an excuse to jump on me, though. What I should have said is that it is impossible to discuss such things (well, on this site at least) without it all descending into chaos and name calling - examples of which include our fox hunting debate and Iraq.

just because you may have differing views to some of the people is no reason to hide them.

I'm not hiding them; I'm choosing to keep them to myself in light of past discussions. With respect Emma, I don't think you were around back when those discussions took place (though I could be wrong) - do a search for the Iraq and fox hunting discussions on this site, and you'll see what I mean.
Posted by chris, 16:48, 16th February 2003:
 
YAWN!!!!!!
Posted by chris, 16:53, 16th February 2003:
 
you are all wrong, no matter what you think - I am always right, and i know EVERYTHING!!!!

even if you think the same as me you are wrong, because you aren't me.

wrong wrong wrong.

i mean this with the most respect ladies and gents... you are just wrong though - all of you.
Posted by Sul, 17:46, 16th February 2003:
 
except me, but you knew that
Posted by Redmaiden, 18:16, 16th February 2003:
 
All I know is I don't jump on people even if their ideas differ from mine
Posted by Redmaiden, 18:28, 16th February 2003:
 
can't we all just mass debate togethere?
Posted by jlittle, 18:53, 16th February 2003:
 
2 Million Hippies in London
Posted by chandler, 19:02, 16th February 2003:
 
"can't we all just mass debate togethere?"

red - I think you can guess my answer to this one.

And dont feel you have to look up the fox hunting and other argumentative posts cos they dont show me at my best. :P
Posted by jeff, 19:42, 16th February 2003:
 
"the sooner we bomb that bastard in Iraq the better"

How can you write that and then claim to not want to post your views? crazy man. and the reason people always jump on you is because your tone is always so aloof and argumentative, like you want a response but then you cant handle it...
but thats just my opinion, i'm rubbish at arguing...

Yo momma...
Posted by chris, 20:42, 16th February 2003:
 
see, you are all wrong

and sul, you are wrong to agree with me - but we both already knew that ;)
Posted by ell, 20:55, 16th February 2003:
 
"I'm not marching - the sooner we bomb that bastard in Iraq the better."

Damnit, we need more pro-war marches and campaigns.
Posted by chris, 20:56, 16th February 2003:
 
...and series two of Red Dwarf on DVD
Posted by chandler, 21:57, 16th February 2003:
 
my mate has that. I shall have to aquire it too
Posted by Gary, 22:54, 16th February 2003:
 
YAWN!!!!!!

I agree. Reading back through this entire thread just made me yawn. But that's probably because I'm tired and it's getting late, and nothing to do with the actual content of the thread.
Posted by chris, 23:14, 16th February 2003:
 
I'm dying to go buy it chay :) Can't wait!
Posted by cal, 23:33, 16th February 2003:
 
gary - if you don't want to argue, then stop trying to provoke people. if you don't want to discuss the war, then just don't
Posted by chris, 00:13, 17th February 2003:
 
here here :)
Posted by Redmaiden, 00:45, 17th February 2003:
 
yeh :P
Posted by MonkeyArmada, 08:45, 17th February 2003:
 
WAR, huhhhh, what is it good for?
Posted by chandler, 09:01, 17th February 2003:
 
absolutly nothing?
Posted by arsepuppy, 10:53, 17th February 2003:
 
good gawd!
Posted by MonkeyArmada, 11:10, 17th February 2003:
 
yarrr!
Posted by Victor Menendez, 11:19, 17th February 2003:
 
I went on the march, funniest thing i've done in years, some legendary banners, including

'War is silly!'

'Iranians against fundamentalism!'

'Socialists against war and terrorism!'

Halfway round the route i got bored and turned it into a march/pub-crawl, then i got bored and remembered i am a capitalist running dog so i had a burger king and went shopping along the route, by the time i got to green park i was loaded down with shopping so i went home and watched the rugby instead.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 11:20, 17th February 2003:
 
Fear not though gary, when i have a bit of time i will take up the pro-war baton and debate for you.
Posted by arsepuppy, 11:37, 17th February 2003:
 
Has anyone read that article in the Independent which in a way actually makes a good case for an attack on Iraq. Interesting.
Posted by arsepuppy, 11:39, 17th February 2003:
 
argument.independent.co.uk/regular_colum...
Posted by arsepuppy, 11:45, 17th February 2003:
 
(p.s. I am anti war)
Posted by chandler, 12:49, 17th February 2003:
 
The best banner was "Down with this sort of thing"

Very Ted
Posted by Victor Menendez, 13:01, 17th February 2003:
 
I also witnessed the first casualty of the war as a well-dressed well-spoken woman with a 'Daily Mirror' banner fell off the kerb and hurt her knee. i giggled all the way round westminster.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 14:30, 17th February 2003:
 
Right, time to argue.

Lets go ahead with the war.

One of many reasons, OPEC are squeezing the life out of the west with their ruthless control of oil production. Under the guise of a humanitarian 'regime change' we can set up a puppet democracy and conduct a much more favorable price on the barrel
Posted by MonkeyArmada, 15:14, 17th February 2003:
 
VM, is spot on there I think.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 15:16, 17th February 2003:
 
Exactly, its like when you are playing civilization 3 and you realise you don't control any oil, do keep paying the zulu's 2000 gold every 20 turns plus giving them loads of free technologies or do you send in the boys?
Posted by Sul, 15:21, 17th February 2003:
 
A pro-war argument based on civilisation 3. I salute you VM.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 15:29, 17th February 2003:
 
Thank you sir!

In the words of the old playground chant:

"Have a fight see whos the best, have a fight see whos the best"
Posted by cal, 16:12, 17th February 2003:
 
i think we need to find a way to turn fox hunters into oil. that would solve *all* our problems?

me, provoke? noooooooo....
Posted by Victor Menendez, 16:23, 17th February 2003:
 
I think we need to find a way to turn foxes into oil, that would make fox-hunters valuable members of the community.
Posted by chandler, 16:23, 17th February 2003:
 
hooray
Posted by Rosie, 16:38, 17th February 2003:
 
Hello!!

Well, what I want to know is why were people holding up banners that said " make tea not war"? Surely that doesn't make sense. I dont under stand that shouldn't it be " make love not war"?
PS: dont read this to closely as I have a skinking cold and you might catch my germs.
Posted by chandler, 16:41, 17th February 2003:
 
i think Make Tea not War means that we as british people, famous for our tea. should be minding our own business and making a nice cup of tea rather than starting a war along with our Coke drinking US buddies.
Posted by Sul, 16:41, 17th February 2003:
 
Would you want to make love to Saddam Hussain? I know I'd rather have a cup of tea with him.
Posted by Sul, 16:42, 17th February 2003:
 
Who am I kidding, I'd want him to shaft me like the little english pigdog that I am :D
Posted by Victor Menendez, 16:44, 17th February 2003:
 
As long as i dont get a skinking cold i dont care.
Posted by Rosie, 16:47, 17th February 2003:
 
I don't understand all this war stuff.

My nose is all red and I look like a glue sniffer. Anyone know any good cold remedies?
Posted by Redmaiden, 19:08, 17th February 2003:
 
Rosie: take zinc (scientifically proven to cut colds by half - allegedly), sniff lemon essential oil, eat garlic cloves (you have probably lost your sense of taste anyway), stay in bed and drink plenty of water!
Posted by Gary, 19:49, 17th February 2003:
 
I know some good cold remedies too, Rosie - but I won't post them here just in case my tone comes across as "aloof and argumentative". Sorry. :(
Posted by reitsma, 21:06, 17th February 2003:
 
heh.
here in sydney, there was a guy in a dentist outfit, waving a sign that said:
"Fight Plaque, Not Iraq"

...i thought that was pretty cool.

gary: congratulations, through your ellipsis, you've still managed to come across as aloof and argumentative.
Posted by Gary, 21:59, 17th February 2003:
 
Thank you for pointing that out my astute Australian friend. There was supposed to be a tiny touch of humour in that last post, though...
Posted by chandler, 22:15, 17th February 2003:
 
yeah only a tiny touch though :)
Posted by Gary, 22:38, 17th February 2003:
 
Hehehe... :)
Posted by reitsma, 00:14, 18th February 2003:
 
noted.
yours may have included a tiny touch of humour, but i laced mine with a comlpementary bitchslap of humour.

:o]
Posted by Gary, 00:48, 18th February 2003:
 
The complementary bitchslap of humour was also noted. :)
Posted by ilovebeerme, 09:06, 19th February 2003:
 
I was at the march in Paris. It was big and french.
Posted by Victor Menendez, 09:30, 19th February 2003:
 
Pah, the french. They'd rather eat and make love with their faces than fight!
Posted by Sul, 09:56, 19th February 2003:
 
yeah, bloody surrender-monkeys!
Posted by Victor Menendez, 10:04, 19th February 2003:
 
Anyone want to buy authentic french world war 2 rifles? never fired. only dropped once.
Posted by Redmaiden, 19:53, 19th February 2003:
 
I'd always rather eat and make love, preferably at the same time
Posted by donnie, 00:52, 20th February 2003:
 
...errrrrrrrrrrr i'm gonna be sick, bomb the bastards!!!!!!