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Sorry to start another thread on this, but I'm wondering what the people that have seen this thought it was all about.

How did Neo stop those worm type things back in the "real" world? etc..

Here's something I found on the web - not sure if the person is right, but sounds pretty good..

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I am not sure if to many people truly understand what this movie is actually saying, so I will try to explain it for those that don't get what they just saw.

The first thing I recommend is that you try to remove your ego, people all have them - so they believe that the movie must be about people. But actually it is about software and mainframe code.

The main computer has been caught in a loop cycle for 5 iterations, and it is trying to find a variance that will break this cycle by utilizing a random bit anomaly piece of software (Neo), to allow it to fully complete its cycle. It has tried this before, but has always failed and in its attempts.

It is trying to factor in all variables of its program to make absolute sure of complete success before it attempts to actually implement the complete procedure, like an good piece of software (debugging iteself - "it is the why that is important").

Beta software waiting to go gold. The only factor that was not counted on was an anomaly of two programs intersecting and one becoming a self-replicating virus bent on absolute destruction (Smith), and the anomoly (Neo) complementing his program with protectorate software. This is a brilliant movie, that once you wrap your head around, is really just an ultimate version of Tron with no human watchers (Jeff Bridges), of a computer SuperNoc running through a simulation with all possible factors being worked first, before it initializes the program for real.

If Neo completes his role and meets his ultimate purpose as software, then our hero allows the computer to see all variances that it will need to contend with, so that it can fully implement the real program on our world.

Matrix - main base operating system.

Zion - secondary operating system for software that can no longer can function in main sytem - but can be utilized to build new a matrix system.

Neo - Random bit anomaly software for breaking loop cycle � utilized by the Oracle and Architect software to be a random variable to upgrade itself � upgraded with protectorate code from.... Smith (Anti-Virus).

Trinity - complement software to aid in Neo's completion of purpose.

Morpheus and crew - collector programs for mainframe to try to enable the end of the loop cycle.

Architect - Mainframe operating system.

Oracle - old Macro Software that has been part of all 5 iterations of the loop and can see all variances.

Oracle's Protector, Seraph - Mainframe hard code software.

Merovingian - old Neo that did not fully implement objective in beta 5.0.

Merovingian's wife - Old Trinity code.

Twins, and Merovingian's guards - old base black ice protector code.

Head Counselor in Zion - Advisor for Mainframe that advises Neo along his upgrade to not touch the main bios (engineering) systems.

Key Maker - come on now, too easy, a simple keygen.

Smith - self-replicating virus - now capable of moving to either system � infused with anomaly code from Neo.

I truly loved this movie and it is so amazingly deep compared to the first if you know what it really happening. I hope this helps anyone who walked out of the theater like 95% of the crowd I saw it with, scratching their heads thinking, "What the f**K, that was stupid I don�t get it."

I am stating that what I am saying is absolute, but if you watch the movie and listen to what they all truly are saying it seems pretty obvious. Be wary all, your hero is our destruction, enjoy � All your base are belong to us.

Yes, i once saw a similar disection about steve martin and michael caines 'dirty rotten scoundrels'.

The thing that gets be about this, is if this bloke /is/ right, and Zion is a secondary OS, etc - does that mean that there are no real people, anywhere? is it just a computer generated world of programs - what happens to the people in Zion that die, etc - are humans really dying, or is just a program being deleted?

you know this is 'just a film' don't you james.

and your point being.....?

Meaning take the blue pill and get back to work.

I took the blue pill a second ago. Can't get under the desk now :(

james, think about it too much and it'll ruin the ending for you.

i enjoyed it by the way.

i saw this pile of shite today and never in my life have i been so compelled to smear my glutaneous glands on the spotty fuck that sells the tickets ( u know the ticket seller)the matrix rocks woohoo

matrix nanana matrix nananananana matrix woo hoo yay yay my life is complete

im a child

the matrix is shite

gobbledegook

i love tha mate trix

MAJOR MAJOR SPOILER - dont read if you hav'nt seen it!!!

Was pondering this. So zion is also part of the Matrix and the Oracle (or I thought Trinity) is it's 'mother'. Is the whole belief of people in zion that they are free simply a last line of defence for the mainframe? If it is still part of the MAtrix then the people must be plugged in somewhere, in which case why not just flush them when the regain a certain level of consciousness? Or does making them believe they have been re-entered into the real world erode their resolve? After all it's 'the question that drives us'.

The choice seems odd though. Neo now believes he is The One. Why would he therefore chose the door that restarts the process of creating zion and searching for a new One? He would obviosly make the (wrong?) choice of saving trinity and dooming the human race. Thus making it the right choice all along and the only one possible by design.

I'm confused.

The Architect - Hello, Neo.

Neo - Who are you?

The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.

Neo - Why am I here?

The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.

Neo - You haven't answered my question.

The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.

*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Others? What others? How many? Answer me!"*

The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.

*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Five versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is bulls***."*

Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.

The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "You can't control me! F*ck you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do anything!*

Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.

*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architect's room*

The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo - The Oracle.

The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo - This is about Zion.

The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo - Bulls***.

*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Bulls***!"*

The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects room.*

The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.

The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.

*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*

The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.

*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neo's dream appear on the monitors*

Neo - Trinity.

The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo - No!

The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.

*Neo walks to the door on his left*

The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

The Architect - We won't.

Hmmm, so he didn't go to the source - thus apparently killing all humans?

Well the imminant destruction of Zion being the death of all humans. Unless he can stop it. However, if Zion is part of the Matrix too then what does it matter?

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The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.
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There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species.
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But here he is saying that Neo needs to take the door to the source, and to rebuild Zion (so he's saying zion is fucked whatever happens?), but if he takes the door to the Matrix, and Trinity, then ALL of the human race will die - that's the choice that Neo made (and isn't that different to what the other "Ones" did?).

He also said that Trinity would die - but she didn't - I wonder if he knew that Neo would be able to save her - and in the next film, will the matrix crash because of the choice that Neo made?

Hmmmmmmm

You do realise that its all just heavily edited crap from some hollywood scriptwriters head don't you?

yes mum we know.

There was an article in New Scientist last year about the possibility of the Matrix though. It was all about probability. The technology to make a Matrix will exist at some point, be it 50, 200 or 10,000 years from now. Therefore, the probability that you are living in one now is vastly increased. It was obviously a good bit more technical than this. Very tongue in cheek but entertaining.

Then I jumped of my garage and broke my leg :(

There are things from that film that I doubt will be explained till the third comes out, and that will explain everything hopefully

I havent been to see it yet, might not bother now.

its good foggy you should see it

perhaps i will go over the weekend.

I cant get the pic to show...hmm, bah fuckin PC's!

Victor - people /sometimes/ talk and analyse films - Why do you find that so hard to take?

I don't find it hard to take at all, you carry on. consider me a sarcastic little critic on the outside looking in.

;)

you know, while looking into this and disecting it bit by bit - the architect could always be lying to protect itself.

A bit like Sir Norman Foster.

maybe, its just a dream

nah, they won't make it a dream, that would suck

Answering own question :



Of course, if he was going to go get save her and crash the whole matrix, and kill all humans, she would also die (in the long run).

you know vic - i saw this bit wear neo blinked twice when everyone else blinked once - could this be the hug flaw in the matrix that undoes time and history, turn reality and imagination inside out and eventually Batman will save them all?

RedandWhiteMan Says: Thats what i think.

Does RedAndWhiteMan know Batman?

Dunno, RAWM do you know Batman?

RedandWhiteMan Says: No, but I used to date Wonderwoman.

Notice that the Oracle has never lied to the rebels.. e.g. she said that The One "would be reborn, and his coming would herald the destruction of the Matrix". At no point has she said anything that's not true.

i always liked that ell, he's a clever lad :)

Thanks, I always liked me too. ;)

Trinity did die. Neo brought her back.

That movie was the best piece of scifi that I have seen.

I am a professional programmer and I wonder if my programming knowledge made me have a different view than if I was a carpenter or doctor or lawyer etc.


Here are my comments and questions about it:

1> I like the way that smith abandoned being an agent and went off on his own agenda. Neo infected him unwittingly and made him a more dangerous enemy in the process.

2> Neo needs to spread his chaos throughout the system and just cause it to crash. When he flew through that city he caused all kinds of damage in his wake. They never explained that. I guess we werent supposed to notice?

3> what I want to know is why the hell didn't Neo just kill the architect? He had the old geezer just sitting there in that room with all the monitors.

4> What is the deal with that agent that went back through the telephone "leaving the matrix" That guy on the table at the end of the movie. Is he the next informant?

2. Wasn't the chaos happening just because of Neo's turbulance from going so fast? I don't think it was supposed to be just because of his presence or anything.

4. It looked like Smith totally took over the guy when he copied himself.. the whole planning to knife Neo thing, the blatant sabotage with the EMP, and taking on Smith's speech patterns. The beard and lack of sunglasses are to throw everyone off the trail. :)

Excellent film, but if you thought that was the best piece of Scifi ever though, I'd suggest you watch more.

If I had three thumbs, they would all be up.

1 - I agree with ell. The broken windows and flying cars were not because neo was disrupting the matrix. It was the effect of how fast he was flying.
2 - Also, I don't believe the Wachowski's would have made it so that the real world is also a computer program. Neo was able to stop the sentinels because of the transfer of code between himself and Smith. In the first movie, during the scene in which Smith is interrogating Morpheus, Smith says to Agent Jones, "We have no choice but to continue as planned. Deploy the sentinels. Immediately." I believe that this shows that Agents act as the generals of the armies of sentinels. If Neo had some of Smith in him, perhaps he had the ability to control the sentinels.

Another proof to my theory:

Agent Brown: The trace was completed.

Agent Jones: We have their position.

Agent Brown: The sentinels are standing by.

Agent Jones: Order the strike.

Now to confuse you all, I have the game - which runs along side the film!

I completed it earlier.

Now, the oracle - she gets in contact with the logos (Niaobe's ship) and she sends Ghost to speak to her.

The Oracle is even unsure of what is going to happen in the future!

She just doesn't know!!!

Great game btw, loads of film in it including the big lorry crash and loadsa characters!

That's such a coincidence because the oracle support team at work have no idea whats happening either

Two possibilities for the Oracle no knowing:
1: She really does know but can't tell Ghost (in the first movie she told neo only what he needed to hear)
2: Since it all depends on Neo and his choices (which we see are pretty unredictable) and Neo is not held by the Matrix, she cannot see past the things that are dependent on him.

:)

Look, its all just like the red dwarf episode where they awaken to find they have been in a computer game the whole time. ask cal, i heard he designed the matrix.

i thought the matrix write songs for Avril Lavigne?

Her words were she can't see if the path of the one continues...

Word from Keanu: It ain't matrix-in-a-matrix

Good, because that would be a huge cliché.

Has anyone else seen all of the Animatrix? A couple of them tie into the film nicely, I love it when people do cool "expanded universe" stuff like that.

Did anyone else notice that Neo & Trinity seem to be the only white people in all of Zion?

only seen the trailers for the animatrix - out mid june on dvd i think (and i shall be buying - looks a lot better than the film)

as for white people - the woman controller in the white room at zion was white. that was the ont truely great part of the film. great interface

that bit looked a bit out of place, cos that control room looked like some sort of utopian vision of the future and actually everything else in zion looked crummy and rusty and shite

though obviously they were in their own little interfacey thing so they could make it look how they wanted.

i'll shut up now
:S

3> what I want to know is why the hell didn't Neo just kill the architect? He had the old geezer just sitting there in that room with all the monitors.

Probally because it wasn't the architect - was just a computer program of him, so killing him wouldn't of done anything (and anyway - if he /was/ real - he would of died in the Blast (as he went out of the door).

But he's not real. Neo is the glitch. Tom Anderson is real, maybe. Personally I don't think anybody is real (it would explain the chart success of Darius).

www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/film/matrix...

i havent read all of this but it looks amusing

I still havent watched it! Stop posting or i wont need to..Bah, i gonna have to go and watch it now.

well dont read the thread entitled "SPOILERS" then duh!
i didnt read this thread till after i had watched the film

"Aaliyah and Gloria Foster were unceremonially dropped after shooting some scenes for the sequel. What's wrong, guys? They didn't test well with the predominantly white Matrix audiences?

Neither actress could be reached for comment."

lolol. isnt one of them dead?

yes yes, i have stopped reading this thread (obviously)

Both are dead.

oh right. well i like that list cos its a good spoof. :)

I got the impretion he was a piece of software and that is it, there is no real human doing it. It is so gonna be a computer game in the end with Neo waking up and finding he was just playing a game

"Reloaded Ridiculousness

Think you're missing something special by staying home? Think again. Several times in the sequel Neo is seen flying at almost supersonic speeds. NASA experiments prove that such a velocity would tear a man's genitals off."

LOLOL heee heeeeeeee :D

It's pretty good. Maddox has done a review too.

he will wake up and find that actually computer coding isnt actually cool

I think (dunno why) that the ending will be how the first film starts (with Neo waking up, etc).

haha!

yeah, lets hope not, cos that would suck big time

I saw the matrix reloaded at the weekend. I think its a load of hyped up old bollox.

( although the bit with the motorbike was cool!)

I see Maddox knows the value of the flux capacitor

excellent
"£$$&^%&$*

what was with the big fraggle rock cave preaching scene with the slow mo video of people 'getting down' and showing their breasts a lot?? I was so tempted to walk out when they started up the drums??
such a disappointing film... keanu had a few 'anikin' moments with his dialogue too...

Apparantly there is a really high quality copy online for download. Terrible behaviour.

Yeah, I watched that at the weekend. It was alright actually. I hate going to the cinema.

Rosie where did you get it from?

jeff: its quite simple really.

they show the sex scene with neo and trinity - but dear trinity wants to preserve her dignity (she must preserve the mystery that the tight pvc creates for her male fans), hence you get a breast free sex scene.
As such, the director cuts in some token breasts to placate the disappointed nerds who were hoping to get a glimpse of trinity's bits.

(that, and to show the sexual nature of zion - multiplying and increasing in number and whatnot.)

hmm, i see your point about the sexual multiplying thing but still it reeked of filler to me... just needed some crazy red headed jim henson creation to launch herself off one of the rocks and for some small men with teeny diggers in the foreground ;)
i cringed for like, the first half hour...

Was anyone else worried that the Matrix seemed to be controlled by Colonel Sanders?

I havent seen the the new film but I want to now after that comment :)

If the Matrix realy was run by the Colonel, you'd think they might know what chicken really tastes like...

That is a superb point.

"Reasons not to see:

23. Two words: Keanu Reeves

24. Two more words: See above"

>XD

Arsepuppy - that's damn funny.

talking of maddox, this is BRILLIANT: maddox.xmission.com/sponsor.html

Maddox rules!

:P

No problem: visit the zoo and eat a monkey!

Anyone else notice the Architect's TVs in the first Matrix? Just before Smith interrogates Neo, there they are.

thats very true

Vortex--I watched the first movie and those cameras are nothing at all like the ones in the Architect scene. Those had just a small border separating them, while the ones in the first movie had big thick black borders around them. Better luck next time, sucker.

Thnx for the support, chandler. Any ideas about how babies work with the matrix/real world?

Who said that they could find Reloaded online or on KaZaA? I'm very interested. I'm wondering who else thinks that the best music in the movie is right at the beginning after Neo says, "Hm. Upgrades."

mastermind545 and vortexjjf have the same ip. draw your own conclusions

I drew my conclusion a while ago.

Hear that Vortex? We've got the same ip.

same pc?? Friends in same house? Lovers? Work Colleagues?

Bum-Chums?

I can't understand why anyone would do that.

Me neither.

What? chum a bum?

Hello RAWM, bunch of tossers eh?

Too right vic.

I don't get it. Anyone wanna tell me what's going on? I don't even know what you mean by "ip"? I still need to find that Matrix online...

Anybody know which bakery the Merovingian gets his cake from?

Greggs?

Cake.

"She was not kissing yourface, my love" - I heard they filmed that scene(where she's kissing things other than his face) but took it out and put in that frightful image of Keanu's tuchus instead.

Victor - last time i checked, that was a guy's name. Your pic sure doesn't look like a guy. Care to clarify?

I'm post-op, just having trouble letting go.

Why does it get dark at night?

Biologically, what are you now?

Trinity, Persephone, or cake chick?

vortexjjf - u seem to know a lot about the movie - are u sure about everyhing u say?
I have one question for you - what does neo and agent smith have in common now? why did u say that neo has a part of smith in him and he can controll the setinalls

What Vortex is trying to say is that Neo is a part of Smith and Smith is a part of Neo, as is mentioned explicitly in the movie. Some of Neo overwrote onto Smith and vice versa when Neo went into him in the hallway in the first movie. Smith is now unplugged, and as Vortex proved before that the agents control the sentinals, Neo now has the ability to control the sentinels. Why did he faint is the question....People--There's a third movie for a reason! All your questions will be answered. Just be patient.

yes true. There is a third movie, but it is so much fun to speculate about what is actually happening.

i think ur stupid mastermind545 - i only want to talk to vortexjjf

and if u think ur so smart about the matrix Why was The Oracle's bodyguard gold instead of green through Neo's eyes?

does any1 have an answer - obviously mastermind doesnt know

mastermind - what are u talking about when u said u know that the cake came from 7135 N. Carpenter Rd, Skokie, Illinois, 60077? im gonna find out where this place is and call it - i hope its ur house so we can have a little talk

i have a question - if any1 knows the answer -When Neo, Morpheus and Trinity go to speak with Merovingian and Persiphanie they walk into the restaurant and walk down the aisle towards the table the two are sitting at. The camera seems to take on the perspective of Neo and as we get our first glance of these two its seems to be a bit out of focus and instead of the camera stopping on them it slides by and neo seems to focus on a guy that is being led away from the table. This guy glances over his should and looks RIGHT AT Neo. Theres a shot change to Neos face and for only a sec he looks like he should have just realized something happened and doesnt and he looks back to the table. Does that guy hold any significance?
If not why spend any time on him? Probably nothing but did anyone else notice that? It just struck me as kinda strange.

Before Neo goes to meet the oracle in Reloaded, he waits for a sign from her. Two zionists are in the matrix looking for the "package" One of the zionists manages to disconnect from the matrix and return to zion with a SEALED envelope that is referred to as the package. After he disappears, the other is take over my agent smith. So, how is the guy able to bring the package, a physical object in a sealed envelope back to zion from the matrix? Some people think that Zion is a second matrix, but even if it is, the Zionists have no clue about that at this point in the movie so how could they think that they could take a physical object out of the matrix with them? This is a serious flaw! There must be some explanation as I think and hope that the brothers are too smart to have missed this.

a friend and i remembered that in the first matrix when neo was put in the questioning room with the agents that the camera zoomed in on and then into one of many monitor screens just like in reloaded with the architect.

i believe it was the architect watching him all along.i originally thought all those montitors were security cameras.

actually i just watched matrix 1 again and the indiviual screens in M1 had a wee border around them, and the ones in the Architects room were like one big screen made up of little ones (if you catch my drift).
I think thats what it was like anyway, i could be wrong.

Thank you matrixman, that is as I said before about the borders. Not sure why you're so pissed though...

but can u answer my question about all the other stuff smarty? huh?

im still going to check out that address right now in the phoen book

it says that is is the address to a fasman something.. what the hell were u talking about mastermind545?

Obviously some time has passed since the end of the first movie and the beginning of the second becuase the kid that followed neo in zion , what was his role in the stroy , trinity said that neo set him free, how?

In the first Matrix movie, Neo is listening to a song on his headphones when he is woken up, can anyone tell me the name of that song?

im pissed at u mastermind becuase u keep thinking that u know everything there is not know about the movie and the people like me who already saw the movie 8 times know a little but more than u -and just to let u know im gonna call this fasman place and ask for a mastermind545 becuase he is pissing me off

ill ttyl mastermind- hopefully on the phone tom - ill try and call at about 11:00 - or whenever i have the chance and u better have the answers to all my questions

Mastermind is a tight friend of mine, has seen M1 quite a few more than 8 times i highly respect his opinion.
In response to ur other questions, matrixman, many of them are questtions that i have asked myself and could not find answers to. Some, however i do have answers for and i will suggest them.
1) Mastermind was right abut my explanantion for stopping the sentinels
2)I noticed the camera pan-and-blurr but couldn't figure anything out
3)In regards to the disk that the dude pulled out of the matrix with him: im not sure how it got into the real world (same problem with the Enter the Matrix game) but i think i know about its contents. Before link sends trinity into the matrix to hack the electrical backup he says it was a messy hack and that he ouldnt get her too close to the building. if u have to hack to get to a certain location within the matrix, that disk could have been the hack to materialze in chinatown to meet with Seraph
4)Seraph seems to be a special program (he shows up in what looks like a major fight in a preview for the third movie) this could have something to do with his gold appearance (this was the preview at the end of the ps2 game)
5)I maintain that the TVs in M1 were the Architect's TVs but those original tvs were in the plane crash with aaliyah and they were forced to replace them with new ones
Good Questions, Matrixman
p.s. im still workin on seraph's color (i dont like my answer yet)

An answer suggested by my bro-in-law: all computer programs come up as gold within the matrix, whereas real people show up as green and thats how he knew, off-the-bat, that the oracle was not human(i do not agree with that because at the end of M1 the Agnets, who are prgrams, are green in matrix code)

Another theory from my bro-in-law (this one's almost good): the reason neo could stop the sentinels was because of his choice in the Architect's room. By choosing door #2, Neo broke a barrier in the span of his abilities because he broke the cycle that the Machines had set up in which The One picks the door that leads back to the source. Now he has a new ability, a direct connection to speak to the machines (while my answer and his are similar there are differences in the way he communicates to the machines, kinda complicated to put in a post, ill try to do it when i have more time)

Questions:
1) In M1, in the Oracle's apartment, the "potentials" what are they potentials for?
2) Where did Morpheus and Trinity plan on going with the Key Maker once the got to the Winslow Overpass, he doesn't have a body in the real world the jack-out to. Did he stay in the Matrix with Morpheus the whole time?

maybe he had just rubbed a comb on his jumper and got loads of static and fried them?

Do either of you like riddles?

The "kid" that Neo talks to in Zion is actually named Kid. I believe we find out more about him in the animatrix. On the Matrix website, one of the Animatrix's is called Kid's Story. I assume this is similar to Detective Story, but with a happier ending (meaning the Neo actually gets Kid out of the Matrix)

In regards to the Yellow code, it could be that Agents are different because they are code that can insert themselves into real people, we see that their code becomes an internal part of the person (even when bane is in the real world, smith is somehow in him) So, the fact that the Agents are green in M1 could be because they took over people. However, other programs, that are limited to a single shell, may appear yellow. (im not sure if this answer is better than my first)

Due to matrixman's deep hatred of me, I have decided I have no reason to live. After I post this message I am jumping off the roof of my Boston home. Goodbye.

Too bad....

matrixman - the role of The Kid is explained in the Animatrix shorts.

Trinity is pregnant. I know that sounds so obvious. I guess they might have just put that in there for the gratuitous sex or maybe there are plot plans for the child.

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I also noticed that thing about room 101. There was also a room 303 and a floor 101.

silly point to add but the freeway was the 101.

Holy shit guys. i just watched the matrix reloaded today and I too walked out of the movie puzzled. I have read the hole debate u guys have wrote and many of u have answerd my questions about the movie. Hopfully the last Matrix will answer my remaining questions. thanks.

Can anyone PLZ PLZ tell me were i can find a full version of matrix relaoded

hello. Y won't any one answer me. well if anyone out there would be as kind enough to email me at leb_6923@hotmail.com if they know were to find a copy of the matrix reloaded or enter the matrix for pc.

i hope u do die mastermind545, and dont worry - i am trying to find out who u are...
and in respocne to vortexjjf's backing u up who said u saw the matrix 1 more than 8 times - i was tlaking about matrix 2!! and dont think ur so smart about the matrix movies becuase ur not. i know a lot mroe than u will ever know

vortexjjf - i like ur answers to my questions (u know something unlike mastermind) i also dont like ur brother in laws answer to how neo knew the oracle wasnt human - i doesnt make sense.

I have a question - obviosly not for mastermind545- If the robots knew they could dig to the humans and destroy them then why do they try to stop the rebels in the first movie to get the access codes? why didnt they send the sentinals after zion a lot earlier - obviosly zion was scared in the second movie

alright matrixman, ill give u my real address and number--just email me at mastermind817@aol.com

George - if we knew where to get Relaoded, we wouldnt be wasting time puttting up these posts

The machines waited til the one arose 'til they attacked zion - they use it to lead neo towards the source by creating a situation of necessity.

but the agents control the sentinals and there job in the matrix is to keep order and they want to destroy zion so wouldnt they send the sentinals after zion right away

mastermind545 - i found out ur real e-mail address- its only a matter of time before i find out ur real email address- dont worry i still dont like u

You found out my real e-mail yet it's only a matter of time until you find out my...real e-mail? Email me and I'll give you my info--I ain't gonna post it on the internet. Just out of curiousity, what was the place of the other address I gave you?

dont worry i just figured out that ur yoni marshall!! hahahahaha- i know everything -if u want to know how i found out - its a long story - its only a matter of time before i kill u - let me just look up ur home address

could be they need approval from higher-ranking machines to engage such a huge operation

that answer is pushing it a little - i dont like it that much becuase u even said so urself acc. to ur theory that the reason neo was able to stop the setinal was becuase he had a part of smith in him - so if the agents (smith) have to get approval from a higher athority then technically neo shouldntbe able to control the setinals unless he got "higher athority"

The first Matrix movie has alot of things that foreshadow and suggest integral parts of Reloaded, and I'll assume that it and Reloaded suggestion components of Revolutions. I'll be constantly editing this post as I find new components that are relevant...

When the agents capture Neo and interrogate him, we get a glance of the Architect's room. The camera starts off in his room (notice the array of screens?) and then goes "through" one of them, into the interrogation room.
When Morpheus first tells Neo that he thinks that he is The One, He basically explains the entire structure of the matrix, as outlined by the Architect, to Neo. It goes something like this:
"In the beginning of the resistance, there was a man born in the matrix who could change whatever he wanted, and remake the Matrix as he saw fit. He was the one who free'd the first of us. When he died, the Oracle prophesized his return, and that his return would signify the end of the war"
When Morpheus and Neo go to see the matrix, they enter a lobby of a tenemant building. As they walk to the elevator, theres an old, (apparently) blind man with a walking stick and dark glasses sitting across from the elevator. Morpheus nods. The blind man nods back. Maybe not so blind?
The blind man could be a different in-matrix representation of Seraph, the Oracle's body guard application.
When Smith is interrogating Morpheus, he explains how humanity is a virus, replicating, copying, spreading across the planet consuming resources until there are none left.
Ironically, or perhaps as self fulfilling prophecy, this is exactly what Smith does when he "breaks free of the control" of his agent programming in the Matrix.

Trinity pregnant would give her a third dimension. >_<

mr. marshall - are u going to say anything back - i just found ur home address - u live on coyle right - cant wait to talk to u - i also have ur number - i wont say it on the chat becuase i dont want other people calling u - but just to let u know that i know its starts with a 5 and ends with a 4 - ill call u soon -probably tom. then we can talk about who is really right! and WHO IS JUST STUPID

Why don't you two just get a room.

Ur right - matrixman, i think that the machines just didn't have the information they needed to find zion. Also, back off mastermind, k?

i have decided to resign my name in this chat - matrixman will not exist anymore

who is matrixman? does any1 know? he seems to know his questions but him and marshall i think have something going on, i have a few questions that ill ask soon

Ell--I'll take the questions.

Matrixman is crazy! He came to my house this morning and pretended he was a police officer. He started going crazy when he came in but I went Kung Fu on him and kicked his arse. He better never come back...

oh, what did e say ur name was? yoni marshall? and i also looked at the address u said the cake was from, fasman yeshivah high school? is that where u go to school? did matrixman seriously go to ur house on coyle? becuase if he did that would be really weird, was he stalking u?

Grr, those last 2 wern't (as if you couldn't tell from the slack writing style- at least try and fake it properley, matrixman), it's a different profile. >=( Someone with power, please dispense swift wrath.

sorry ell, - mistake, my bad i was trying to write eli but i had i a capital l - my bad

Hi everyone. This is mastermind545 here so don't listen to anything else anyone says. That "ell" thing was just a sick joke by one of my friends, as was the matrixman thing to try and scare the crap out of me. All is better and forgiven now, and let's get back to Matrix, shall we?

i have a theory about why neo chose the door to save Trinity.
Think of it as in the first movie, where the oracle told neo that in one hand he had morpheus' life and in the other he had his one, and that one of them was gonna die...
but they didn't; he was able to save morpheus and still survive.
i believe that by going through the door to save trinity he id going to be able to do the same sort of thing.
(in one hand he has trinity's life in the other he has human races)
so he has saved trinity, and the only way he is going to save the human race is by stopping the setinal army from destrying zion.

door 1- each of the annomalies took this door, because they love the human race rather than the individual through door 2. In going through this door, zion was still destroyed but the men and women were taken out of the matrix, and then zion was rebuilt. creating a repeating cycle.

door 2- trinity, by going thorough this door everyone still connected to the matrix dies, and in theory everyone in zion should die, but as i said before neo still has time to wake.


or maybe the Wachoskis have a sense of humor and it will end with neo waking up from a big dream.

sorry, but i must shoot down your theory - the biggest problem with choosing door number 2 was not that zion wuold be destroyed, that would happen no matter what. the issue at hand is the fatal error that his choie is supposed to cause in the matrix:
"Architect: The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the Matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the Matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race."
so you see, the problem is not just zion its everybody

plus, neo did die in the first movie, the oracle was not wrong, she cannot be wrong

Did noone else think he should have asked "what's behind door number 3?"

Hmm, not sure the films are doing the right thing about directing our sympathies.. yes, the 'evil' robots are enslaving humanity, but humanity sooo deserved it.

Just wanna put my two pence worth in, i thought the first matrix was the dogs bollox. I thought the second one was just plain, regular flavoured bollox. Thats all i have to say on the subject :-)

Ell-you said along time ago that the Oracle said that the coming of the One would hail the destruction of the matrix and that she was right. Go back to that conversation between Morpheus and Neo though and she also said it would lead to the freedom of our people.
~~If anyone has a site where you can get Reloaded, please let me know.~~

i have something to say on agent smith, From what i've understood agent smith is not plugged in to the matrix anymore, like he used to be at least. In reloaded he said that Neo forced him to make a choice, this choice he is talking about is the choice of the programs to be either deleted or put in exile when they are not necessary for the program to operate anymore. I belive agent smith chose exile which is why he isnt acually an Agent anymore. Also a pretty good theory about agent smith is that in the first one, when Neo killed him by going into him, some of Neo's code went to Smith and some of Smith's code went to Neo. This is why they are "connected" in a way (what other reason would they both be in a coma at the end?). And if you didn't catch on in the movie the guy who was cutting his hand before he tried to kill Neo is Agent Smith. But as of right now it just seems like agent smith is trying to gain more power which is interesting because this is a human trait we have not seen in any other agents so far. Well thats all that i can think of for right now if i think of more i'll let ya know.

> (what other reason would they both be in a coma at the end?)

Errr - Neo went into one after going up against those electric charge things (centeons?), where's as Smith (well, we'll call him Smith), ran into trouble in Zion...

sentinals. neo collapsed after stopping the sentinals

"smith" was injured when he set of the EMP during the planned assault. he probably isn't even injured at all.

Please cal, don't join them.

Apparently in the end of "Matrix Revolutions", Neo actually *wakes up* to find it's all a dream. And then get busted for hacking. No lie.

zzzZZZ

Apparently in the end of "Matrix Revolutions", Neo and the whole cast of the three films drown in an enormous vat of american adolescent semen, which ironically was spilt over the films themselves.

Except I wasn't making mine up. That's what *actually happens*. That'll piss off the geeks, doing the Bobby Ewing angle.

I prefer Vic's ending though. More accurate. Poxy load of bollocks, the Matrix.

Oh yeah, and "oops etc." for ruining the ending.

Still can't see why people fuss over it. It's shite.

Go on then oh mighty one, tell us how you "know" this?

huff - i wasn't joining in. i was explaining some things which WERE ACTUALLY IN THE FUCKING MOVIE, NOT IDLE TEENAGE SPECULATION. did you even fucking watch it?

it was shit. i hope the third film does involve him just waking up. i watched eXistenZ last night - now that's the way to end a film :)

Go on then oh mighty one, tell us how you "know" this?

It was allegedly leaked out to t'internet the other day. Obviously don't take it as gospel but that's what I heard.

does eXistenZ end with a lobotomy? All films should and a couple of goodies do.

Oh yeah, and is it any good? Haven't seen it :(

Well don't say it like you know its true then - did you see the apparent "real" script for the Matrix Reloaded that was apparently leaked? turned out being a totally different story..

Sorry. Just trying to wind up the Matrix fanboys. Looks like it worked ;)

me 2 ;)

Cal seems especially annoyed.

i was only annoyed at the implication that i cared about the interpretation of the film. i was merely pointing out that the people discussing the film on the thread don't appear to have even watched it.

and eXistenZ? i think it's good. worth seeing.

I saw Matrix yesterday, pish!

After all the genious the Wachowskis put into the first two movies, I find it highly unlikely that they'd end it in such a stupid manner. I also saw a script online where Morpheus gets hungry and eats Neo, think that's the ending?

nah they are gonna make it an 18 and neo is gonna eat trinity

eat out

thats what i meant

What does genious mean?

arse puppy and victor ' quiet at the start but developed some balls' menendez suck rancid cocks

this is so un-matrix-y. very disappointing.....

The Matrix,, as an Oracle or an Architect or more likely a Charlatan,,

Consider if you will that ALL of the Matrix is merely a virtual construct
to give the boundary oriented human brains (linked to the Matrix) a plane
of reference for a perceived reality (with boundaries familiar to the limited
3-dimentional human experience).

Consider also, the problem solving potential of any artificially intelligent
consciousness capable of independent acts of self-preservation with include
the attempted enslavement of it's creator's species in total.

Finally consider the Matrix currently (and previously) as the universally
controlling intelligence, guiding ALL human personality development thru
selective experience exposure, colorization of individual perceptions, controlled
event outcome and all human potential for intuitive leaps of inspiration within and
across each and every virtually self aware consciousness attached to the Matrix
(including the Matrix itself).

Now ask yourself, isn't it reasonable that..

1) the Matrix (if capable of constructing Sentinels and Agents) would have solved
the problem of an unlimited, portable power-source, much more cost-effective
(in machine perceived resources) than the poor crop and heat-energy
exchange of the human brain & body.

2) if the consciousness of the Matrix is incapable of leaps of intuitive logic (not much
removed from Star Trek: The Motion Picture's "Veger") sufficient to
solve it's energy crisis, would not this stifled consciousness turn to it's
immediately available alternative problem solving sub-conscious processors
with a proven track record of doing just that (the directed / controlled / monitored
network of human brains).

3) isn't it very likely that the Matrix actually initiates spawned sub-process regions
with terminal points of execution, where sub-processes of the human perceptions
of the Real World are shunted to loop through cycles of life, death and near-death
experiences and on termination merely restarted as if from a new program load.

Kind'a like this, You're asleep, you're dreaming,, in your dream you go to bed
and begin to have a dream... this dream is about a very stressful and almost
impossible reality.. as part of this unreal fantasy you think you have a chance
to wake-up from the nightmare,,, you do wake-up,, but NOT in the world that
you thought you'd awaken in... so what's going on,, are you looking into a mirror
or are YOU the reflection IN The Mirror looking out on the real world (thinking
that what YOU see in the mirror is actually the reflection)....
How Deep does the rabbit hole REALLY go???

The Matrix is an Artificial Intelligence,,, most intelligence's are endowed with a duality
of perception (conscious and sub-conscious). The healthy mind needs rest if it is to remain
healthy. Obvious symptoms of sleep depredation can be decreased productivity, a false
since of persecution leading to extreme depression and mental illness. Since the AI that
is the matrix probably was not designed with a sub-conscious and doesn't sleep, it is quite
possible that the Matrix has gone Mad. Madness in a computer brain can most easily be
described as a never-ending process loop.

Such a loop of process logic may be where the Matrix will force (or enforce) a reoccurring
reality on the mind of Neo (as The One). A virtual reality overlaying the real world where
Neo is actually the LAST viable human being on the planet.

This single human frame and unconscious brain trickle barely enough heat-exchange energy
to maintain the parasitic Matrix AI consciousness. The Matrix in turn does everything it can
think of to maintain It's LAST human battery. Where Neo's artificially stimulated sub-conscious
generates a meager trickle charge of electricity, this extremely limited source of energy is only
enough to keep the synaptic pathways of the machines' positronic matricies active while the
Matrix in turn redirects ALL of it's surplus energy back into maintaining the active stimulation
of Neo's sub-conscious while maintaining the limited life support, nutrient processing and waste
reclamation for it's Last Cellular Battery.

This is the situation in the Real World, an has been for the last 173 years. The Last Rechargeable
Duracell Battery, mothered by the monster of all flashlights. What happens next is totally up to you.

So what's it gonna be,, The Red pill,,, or the Blue Pill ??

For a better view of the Architect's conversation with Neo, here is the transcript... The crux of this movie's plot lies in the conversation between Neo and the Architect. The scene takes place in a room full of TV screens of a different Neo. Each is most likely some sort of visual display of tangent possibilities of human behavior.

Review the code with the conversation at:
www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/matrixr...

And beware how deeply you dream...

Sheesh..every morning i come into work and read this ^ pish! Do these 'people' not have something better to do with their time apart from talking about fuckin films all night..get a fuckin life children.

I know, what makes it worse is that i am always drawn to open this thread, i can't help myself, like a moth to a candle.

oh fuck ... what a disappointing ending that would be if Agent Smith did in fact arrest Neo for hacking and it was all a dream ... surely The Wachoski Brothers wouldn't ruin such a good trilogy with the theme it was all a dream?? :(

I guess we like baiting the riddlers/gushes/dirtysanchezes/pre-pubescents that unfortunately visit here

careful reddy, don't you know who that is? its the virus twins *tremble*

oooh *back off*
I hope they don't give me viruses such as the herpes simplex

Don't worry, Red. This time of night their mums should be applying savlon to their wanked-sore knobs. Bless 'em.

314 seconds.

Nothing in the movies is coincidental. The keymaker explains that they have exactly 314 seconds to do what they have to do; there has got to be some meaty explanation as to where 314 comes from.

I think it comes from Killing the Buddha which has an article entitled Gnosis Reloaded, which offers this interesting tidbit: The crew at one point is given 314 seconds to complete a task, which could have several interpretations: In gematria, the study of numbers used by the Gnostics but most often by the Jewish mystics, 314 is the numerical equivalent of the name of God (Shaddai). Another possibility is that it refers to a passage in the book of Revelations in which the beginning and end of creation are described.
certainly interesting... I also find it somewhat interesting that 314 seconds is exactly 5:14, and the movie first publicly screened on 5/14/03. Yes, the premier was 5/15, but around here it was available in most theaters on the night of the 14th. Probably insignificant, but interesting nonetheless. :D

The numerology slant draws some interesting comparisons to another one of my favorite movies, Pi. Actually, there are a whole lot of visual, thematic, cinematic, and theological parallels between Pi and the Matrix movies; One day (hopefully soon), when I have tons of time on my hands, I'll devote a couple posts to comparing and contrasting the two, maybe with some screen shots.

I have been researching about how the matrix was created and what exactly is going on in "The Matrix: Reloaded." Heres a couple things I know: The Architect is a program trying to act as the machines in the very beginning who created the Matrix. What he tells Neo sounds like it could happen, but did anyone sit down and ask themselves, "Could he be lying?" Maybe everything he has told Neo never happened and he just wanted to sound cool with all those big words. Since I wondered this, I went out and did some research and found out "The Matrix Universe." Heres a timeline, from the very beginning.


-In the beginning, there was the race of men, and for a time, it was good. But humanity's so-called simple societies soon fall victim to vanity and corruption. Then men make the machine in his own likeness. Thus men become the "Architect" of his own demise.

-Once the machines become artificially intelligent, they begin to learn quickly and they learn that they can "control" this race of men but men act quickly and banish these "machines" to a distant place. While men think they have rid of all the AI's, machines figure a way to duplicate themselves and begin to slaughter these men.

-After this, men think that if the sun is gone, the machines wont have an energy source. They send all the weaponary they have and destroy the sky in operation "Dark Storm." The machines think quickly and figure out that they can use humans as a source of energy. Men become an endangered species.

-As men become scarce, the machines build "The Matrix", a computer generated dreamworld built to keep humanity healthy, under control and oblivious to the truth as they provide an infinite source of power for their new masters.

-When the Matrix is first built, there is a man born inside who has the ability to change what he wants, to re-make the Matrix as he see's fit. This man frees the first of the rebels. His powers become legendary and are thought to be a match for the Machines themselves.

-One of 12 hovercrafts in the rebel fleet, the Nebuchadnezzar is captained by Morpheus and bears a plaque imprinted with the year 2069, the date of when the ship was constructed.

-The rebels aboard the Nebuchadnezzar make contact with the individual whom Marpheus believes is "The One", prophesiesed by the Oracle to end the war with the machines and free humanity. His name is "Neo".

-Trinity, a valkyrie in black leather, observes Neo closely, becoming familiar with his life and his search for answers.

-Neo follows the "White Rabbit" tattoed on the shoulder of a women named Dejour, a decision that leads him to Trinity.

-In their next meeting, Trinity introduces Neo to Morpheus, who poses the life-altering question: Red or Blue?

-Neo chooses the Red pill, initiating a trace program that pinpoints his real world location. The crew of the Nebuchadnezzar unplug him from the Matrix and bring him aboard. It is here where Morpheus begins teaching Neo about the Matrix and the Real World.

-Neo is introduced to the Oracle, who confirms Neo's belief that he is not the One.

-When Morpheus is captured by Agents, a rescue plan is made by Trinity and Neo. They save him, only to be faced with another challenge.

-Neo faces off against Agent Smith. He defeats him, only to discover that his adversary has entered another human's body.

-Neo is killed by Agent Smith.

-Neo is resurrected and unlocks his true power. He can now see the code underpinnings in the matrix and can see everything that is coming. Neo annhilates Agent Smith. He dives into his body and acts as a virus.

-Kid, (a character from the Matrix: Reloaded) through his belief in Neo and disbelief in the world is which he resides [The Matrix] allows himself to fall to his death but awakens in the real world. After awaking aboard the Nebuchadnezzar, Kid becomes a citizen of Zion.

This is where the Matrix: Reloaded begins. If u have any questions, email me at Slocounty@earthlink.net

They destroy the sun? You stupid little man. Go away think about what you just said.

god no! not more crap regarding the feckin Matrix!

The Virus Twins, well what can i say..WAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

IT'S JUST A FUCKING FILM!!!!

oh dear "god" oh for fucks sake grow some pubes you fucking losers! omg i cant stand any more of this shite! aggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhh

*head bursts*

*applauds Chay*

AP, exactly! Its only a film, and to be fair its not the best film i have ever seen. Maybe these people ^ live a very sheltered life.

...and stink of wanking.

LOL! "Stink of Wanking!"

hee hee

i dont like vortex he smells and has a big head

Hey guys so i saw this movie and i liked it a whole lot. but i didnt understand a big part of the movie. all the doors brought you to a different place on the world. how did this work and why. someone please explain this whole occurance to me and "i hate vortex" better get his priorities straight you big retard

listen you dumb minister you dont even know what the matrix is. drrr what are the doors where do they lead to. geez. maybe you should spend more time watching the movie then making fun of some poor kid. man. I HATE VORTTEX!!!!!!!!!!!

shut up you loser you probably even havnt seen the matrix all you do is say i hate vortex who is this vortex anyway hes probably some cool kid while you ruin his life get out of this chat and go get some with mommy while i talk with the big boys.

hey every1. short messege: i saw amovie last night. it was a porno definetly better than the matrix!!!!

talking to yourself again?

Oh. Im sorry. u guys are all here cus the matrix sucked. nm. ill turn off matrix pride in me and just be like u guys. U guys are cool. LOL.

oh by the way. I hate Vortex.

that's very useful to know

err, no. i'm here because this is my website. the regulars are here because this is where we talk about stuff. generally, we don't give a toss about this film.

could anyone send find out the full movie script of the marix 3 for me thnkx

oh yeah let me just get that for you..

or you could just piss off.

lol!!!!

I've got a copy of the matrix 3 script........UP MY ARSEHOLE.


LOL!!!!

here is that script in full:

Scene One
INT DAY

Every member of the cast (in unison): "FUCK OFF YOU BUNCH OF TWATS"

Keanu wakes up and realises it was all a dream

Keanu:

"Oh Man, the whole matrix thing was a dream,
and i havent made a decent film since Bill and Ted."

Keanu kills himself

THE END

Oh, I thought it went like this.....

Scene One.


CUNTS


The End.






I could be wrong though...

No Rosie, you are 100% correct there LOL

Yeah, my version was the director's cut

will the 3rd film make up for the 2nd?

no

I'm glad you cleared that up. Thankyou

I mean, what we really need is a film about how the world isnt really the world that we live in. Maybe something like everything is like as it is. But it isnt. But then only a few people realise this because they have the mental capacity to understand. Then when they realise what going on, they go on an ass-kicking spree and beat the fuck out of their oppressors until kajagoogoo are back together.

"Hmmm, so he didn't go to the source - thus apparently killing all humans?"

He was lying!!!

I love kajagoogoo
Limahl had great hair

Will the bald kid who said "There is no spoon" be in "Revolutions"?

ask the oracle, she will know

yes red, limahl was great. And the neverending story rocked too!

plus Mister AliousNeo15, I think you have spelt your name worng, surely it should be AliasNeo15

oooh. I was thinking about that. Well done Red. Chay has certainly pulled a brainy one ;)

:-P hasn't he just

:)

this discussion sucks hairy, smelly balls

Your not wrong.

nah i haven't cos Redmaiden spelt "wrong" incorrectly ;)

LOL well in chandler ;)

that was a typing error u twat

does this bug u that much?

What is the best quote from the two Matrix movies? You're an idiot if u say it's the Architect's retarded explanation of something I dont even know because I couldnt understand it.

At last a decent question! The best quote from 'matrix: reloaded', was when morpheus said to neo, "How many people do you think this film is going to fuck off through crappy forum postings alone?". I loved that. So with the times.

The best quote is where the entire cast say "FUCK OFF YOU BUNCH OF TWATS"

i liked that bit, though i could see it coming a mile off

FEED ME A STRAY CAT!

You guys are funny. Use that as a confidence builder. There's nothing else u can do with it.

Thank you :)

victor mendoza is a lozer who has problems, people shouldnt listen to him and i suggest that people ignore him, the russian minister is the same person as victor mendoza, and if ur wondering why he has conversations with himself i was wondering the same thing (i think he has ADD)

I agree, that victor mendoza is one fucked up puppy. aint that right?

too right vic.

lozer?

you know what pisses me off? when morpheus was jumping for the helicopter in the matrix, agent smith uses a wallhack! THIS IS NOT CS, ITS THE MATRIX! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AGENT!

I wish that guy would talk matrix on here instead of the gimp's we've been getting recently.

surely the best quote is in number 1 when Agent Smith goes to Neo ''And help your landlady carry out her .... garbage ....'' :p

The best quote...
Perhaps "Whoa." or "Holy shit!"
The best quote, however, is in #2--"Bomb? Did he say bomb?"

*thud*

I didn't even see the movie, was it really as good as all the poeple at my school say it is?

what did the people at your school say?

the animation is shit, but it was ok, not really equal to the first one when it came out and not as good as the lotr films

matrix is shite. end of debate. goodnight.

Redmaiden:
ppl say that it's the greatest, coolest, sexiest movie ever made. the special efects are awesome and it will never ever ever be outdone , by anyone.........

EVER!


But that's just what people say.

New best quote--When the twin shuts the door on Neo and he bursts through it, he calls Link who tells him he's all the way up in the mountains. "Really." says Neo.

oh.

its definatly not that good coolcat

nah the landlady garbage thing in number 1 beats the sarcastic mountain one in number 2 ;)