Posted by
Grim..., 08:50, 24th June 2003:
He was good.
I was pleasently suprised.
He is a wee knob! shit music..and the worst fuckin hair do in the world (apart from Macy Gray)
Posted by
Sul, 08:57, 24th June 2003:
Macy Gray copied her hairdo off my pubes - FACT!!!1
*
*maybe
Posted by
Grim..., 09:07, 24th June 2003:
Fog - were you there?
Posted by
jlittle, 09:13, 24th June 2003:
Didn't fancy seeing him at the bowl TBH - it's too big a venue for a gig like that - i saw him in 'The Venue' on his first album tour - that was good, but only because i'd been downing pints of cider and smoking pot like a wannabe student.
I think he's a shit little Ned.
sorry.
God no, wouldnt pay to see him.
Can't stand the peroxide fucker.
# whine-whine-whine, my mum, my mum, my mum,
(FUCK!) whine-whine-whine, my mum, my mum, my mum,
my mum, my mum, my mum, my mum, my mum #
Those are some choice lyrics. The man's a poet. ;)
Posted by
Grim..., 10:18, 24th June 2003:
Well, he most be doing something right to be the best in his profession.
Fortunatly, impressing alternative music fans isn't one of things he has to do. =]
"
Well, he most be doing something right to be the best in his profession. "
In terms of hip-hop, he's wank. A complete case of Emperor's New Clothes. He relies on gimmick value and Dre's (admittedly pretty fucking good) production. In short, he's mainstream "safe" shit which is tailor made for the "wigga" market.
There is some fucking awesome hip-hop artists out there. He's just not one of them.
/2p
Posted by
Grim..., 10:48, 24th June 2003:
Um, he's still the best in his profession.
When all is said and done, those people are there to sell records.
He sells most - by an extreme amount.
So he must be doing something right...
50 Cent's outselling him at the moment....
How is he the "best in his profession"??
Good sales != artistic prowess.
Posted by
Grim..., 10:56, 24th June 2003:
At the moment, yes.
But if you look at records sold over a period of time (and there was a web site about this, I was reading it a couple of days ago, I'm looking for it now) he completely obliterates all other hip-hop artists, including 50, Cyprus Hill and (damn) Run DMC.
Posted by
cal, 10:56, 24th June 2003:
his profession is "making money from gullible young kids"
silly boy
Posted by
Grim..., 10:57, 24th June 2003:
AP: How is he the "best in his profession"??
Good sales != artistic prowess.
Because his profession is selling records, not being an artist.
But, if art is in the eye of the beholder, then
Good sales == artistic prowess
=]
Posted by
Grim..., 10:58, 24th June 2003:
Cal: Sadly, so is most of the worlds most popular artists / bands nowadays =[
But sales don't mean shit. Look at that list you just gave. Hardly the creme of the genre.
Where are Eric B and Rakim? Tribe? EMPD? Ultramagnetic MC's? Gang Starr? Roots? Talib Kweli? etc....
I'lll give you Run DMC though.
"
AP: How is he the "best in his profession"??
Good sales != artistic prowess.
Because his profession is selling records, not being an artist.
But, if art is in the eye of the beholder, then
Good sales == artistic prowess
=]"
This proves one thing....
"8 MILE" LIED TO US!!!!!1 IT LIED!!!1
Posted by
Grim..., 11:02, 24th June 2003:
Sales mean everything!
What other way can there be to measure an artists popularity?
If it's all about sales, then what's the point???
Posted by
Grim..., 11:02, 24th June 2003:
8 Mile wasn't very good, IMO.
And yeah, it lied!
Sales mean everything!
What other way can there be to measure an artists popularity?
Based on this, we can assume that the Fast Food Rockers are more popular than Led Zeppelin......
Hang on.....
Didn't see it myself. Looked a bit arse.
Posted by
Grim..., 11:05, 24th June 2003:
Okay, lets expand.
Everyone in the world (kind of - you know what I mean) can buy an Eminem single.
Everyone can buy a Rakim (say) single.
People exersise their preferences by purchasing the singles of their favorite artists.
Art isn't something that someone can say "Yes it is" or "No it isn't" (although you'd have a hard time convincing 90% of people on this site (including me) that) so the biggest indicator of 'greatness' is to take a nationwide poll.
Like the charts.
I would probably rather listen to the Fast Food Rockers than Led Zep though... hmm...
Singles buying has become such a minority pursuit in recent years though. Furthermore, it's all about which labels have the most marketing clout.
Posted by
Grim..., 11:11, 24th June 2003:
That's a fair point.
There are many influencing factors, including marketing, radio playlists, and peer pressure.
However.
I saw Eminem, and
I thought he was good.
=]
Posted by
cal, 12:10, 24th June 2003:
also to do with which kind of people have money to spend on singles
Kids with pocket money. Hence the spike in sales on saturdays.
Posted by
Grim..., 13:31, 24th June 2003:
AP - are you sure that's nothing to do with the fact that people go to shops on Saturdays because they are not at work / school?
Bingo.
Kids ---> No school on Saturday ----> Too young for snouts and cider -------> Buy Cheeky Girls Single.
It's rare for adults to buy singles. Unless they do mobile discos, possibly.
Adults tend more to buy albums. Hence the album chart showing a different type of music coverage. However, this applies somewhat less so today. Kids are getting more money off Mummy and Daddy and can now afford the Gareth Gates album, for example, despite them costing fucking loads these days (HMV charge £18+ for some albums. Sods). This is why the record companies are constantly repackaging the albums on this side of the market (new cover art, extra remixes/video content) to exploit this new trend.
TBH, I never get to go to shops on saturdays as a result of enjoying friday nights too much.
The only time I'll ever buy singles are if it's a band/whatever that I like, and it contains B-sides etc. that I don't already have. Since I'm not into the whole downloading lark, it's a necessary evil.
Or if a band release a single which doesn't appear on the album. A rare trend, but one sworn upon by certain bands.
Posted by
cal, 14:37, 24th June 2003:
ditto
not bought any singles for a while
also, i buy nearly all my music online
Posted by
beargod, 11:23, 25th June 2003:
I have to agree with AP with the whole of that.
I also think in the hip hop stakes 2Pac and Coolio were always the best
BG, I must disagree with you..
IMHO, "Paid In Full" by Eric B & Rakim is the best Hip-Hop Album ever. Nothing 2pac ever did can touch it.
Posted by
beargod, 11:51, 25th June 2003:
I never said it wasn't but I have never heard it, but its my opion there to liking those two, thats why I put "I think" in it
Posted by
Sul, 11:53, 25th June 2003:
"I'm cooking MCs like a pound of bacon
Burning them if they're not quick and nimble"
'nuff said
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull up tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get wit'cha
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But with that butt you got makes
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupy
I've seen them dancin'
The hell with romancin'
She's wet, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!
Posted by
beargod, 12:01, 25th June 2003:
Yeah that was awful
Posted by
cal, 12:19, 25th June 2003:
Yo, VIP, Let's kick it!
Ice Ice Baby, Ice Ice Baby
All right stop, Collaborate and listen
Ice is back with my brand new invention
Something grabs a hold of me tightly
Then I flow like a harpoon daily and nightly
Will it ever stop? Yo -- I don't know
Turn off the lights and I'll glow
To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal
Light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.
Dance, Bum rush the speaker that booms
I'm killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom
Deadly, when I play a dope melody
Anything less than the best is a felony
Love it or leave it, You better gain way
You better hit bull's eye, The kid don't play
If there was a problem, Yo, I'll solve it
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Now that the party is jumping
With the bass kicked in, the Vegas are pumpin'
Quick to the point, to the point no faking
I'm cooking MCs like a pound of bacon
Burning them if they're not quick and nimble
I go crazy when I hear a cymbal
And a hi hat with a souped up tempo
I'm on a roll and it's time to go solo
Rollin' in my 5.0
With my ragtop down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby, Waving just to say Hi
Did you stop? No -- I just drove by
Kept on pursuing to the next stop
I busted a left and I'm heading to the next block
That block was dead
Yo -- so I continued to A1A Beachfront Ave.
Girls were hot wearing less than bikinis
Rockman lovers driving Lamborghinis
Jealous 'cause I'm out geting mine
Shay with a gauge and Vanilla with a nine
Reading for the chumps on the wall
The chumps acting ill because they're so full of "Eight Ball"
Gunshots ranged out like a bell
I grabbed my nine -- All I heard were shells
Falling on the concrete real fast
Jumped in my car, slammed on the gas
Bumper to bumper the avenue's packed
I'm trying to get away before the jackers jack
Police on the scene, You know what I mean
They passed me up, confronted all the dope fiends
If there was a problem, You, I'll solve it
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Take heed, 'cause I'm a lyrical poet
Miami's on the scene just in case you didn't know it
My town, that created all the bass sound
Enough to shake and kick holes in the ground
'Cause my style's like a chemical spill
Feasible rhymes that you can vision and feel
Conducted and formed, This is a hell of a concept
We make it hype and you want to step with this
Shay plays on the fade, slice like a ninja
Cut like a razor blade so fast, Other DJs say, "damn"
If my rhyme was a drug, I'd sell it by the gram
Keep my composure when it's time to get loose
Magnetized by the mic while I kick my juice
If there was a problem, Yo -- I'll solve it!
Check out the hook while Deshay revolves it.
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Yo man -- Let's get out of here! Word to your mother!
Ice Ice Baby Too cold, Ice Ice Baby Too cold Too cold
Ice Ice Baby Too cold Too cold, Ice Ice Baby Too cold Too cold
Some one had to! Wasnt expecting Cal though..
Posted by
jlittle, 12:20, 25th June 2003:
Woohooo Icey ! Anyone see the film that he was in?
Posted by
cal, 12:23, 25th June 2003:
he was in a film!?
Posted by
Sul, 12:28, 25th June 2003:
I made the Vanilla Ice point earlier. Just coz you guys dont know your fucking lyrics doesnt mean that I should get past over for praise of mentioning the Ice-man. :(
/rant
Posted by
Sul, 12:29, 25th June 2003:
actually that was more of a sulk wasnt it
How the fuck are we meant to know the lyrics of that twat? And yes, it was a slight moan.
It was called Cool as Ice. Terrible. He was also the Jet Ski World Champion a few years ago.
Jet Ski World Chump!! No way! Thats is actually rather cool..shame.
Whats the weather like in Edinburger ILBM?
You're all forgetting Mr. Ice's absolute career highlight....
The legendary Men and Motors series "Ice With Jordan", a cheap Top Gear knockoff, presented by Vanilla Ice and famous breastmodel Jordan.
Posted by
Sul, 12:40, 25th June 2003:
I imagine Jordan makes for good In Car Entertainment on her own
Sunny and quite warm. Damn nice really. The hayfever meds seem to be working today too so I can even go outside without my face dissolving into a leaky snot pile. Which is nice. Same in Glasgow?
Roasting over here..not a cloud in the sky. Going for a wee walk at lunchtime to check out the young ladies with their short skirts and wee tops..
God bless the sun!
Posted by
cal, 13:22, 25th June 2003:
sul: i posted the lyrics after being inspried by the two lines you posted
Intro: Greg Nice
Ah yeah, here`s another Gangstarr sure shot, featuring the one and
only, uh heh heh heh handly handly boy, Nice & Smooth, hey, hey,
HEY, HEY!!!!
Ganstarr has got to be da sure shot
Nice & Smooth has got to be da sure shot
(Repeat 2X)
[Greg Nice]
Greg Nice!!! Greg N-I-C-E
Droppin dem basso, ah oui oui
Rock for a fee, not for free
Maybe I`ll do it for charity
Now my employer or my employee
Is makin Greg N-I-C-E very M-A-D
Don`t ever ever think of jerkin me
I work to hard for my royalty
Put lead in ya ass and drink a cup of tea
Peace to Red Alert and Kid Capri
Ooohh la la ah oui oui, I say Muhammad Ali, ya say Cassius Clay
I say butter you say Parkay
It`s alright if ya wanna make a sway
I`m a way up town, took duece to the tre
I originate, they duplicate
I praise the lord and keep the faith
It`s alright keep bitin at da bait
`92, uh!!, one year later
Peace out Premier take me out wit da fader
[Premier scratches and hooks]
[Guru]
I chant eenie meenie, minie moe
I wreck da mic like a pimp pimps hoes
Here`s how it goes I am a genius I mean this
I shake this you`ll take this
I`m kinda fiendish
You wish that you could come into my neighborhood
Meaning my mental state
Still I`m 5 foot 8
Crazy as I wanna be
Cause I make it orderly
You could say I`m sorta da boss so get lost
The brotha dat will make you change opinions
Dominions I`m in them when it`s time to kick shit from
The heart, plus I get a piece of the action
I`m feelin satisfaction from the street crowd reaction
Chumps pull guns when they feel afraid, too late
When they dip in the kick they get sprayed
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is
I get more props den stunts den Bruce Willis
A poet like Langston Hughes and can`t lose when I cruise
Out on the expressway
Leavin the Bodega I say "suave"
Premier`s got more beats den barns got hay
Clips are inserted into my gun
So I can take the money, neva have ta run
[Premier scratches and hooks]
[Smooth B]
I left my Phillie at home
Do you have another?
I wanna get blunted my brother
Now may I make a mark
Then make a spark over this phat track
Or should I say dope beat
Subtract, delete
All of the wick wack that wanna be abstract
But they lack the new knack that`s comin from way way back
Hey yo Premier, please pass that buddha sack
You hear we quit?
No way, bullshit
I told ya before we come back wit more hits
I provide bright flava, so you could sketch me
Do me a favor, dont try and catch me
Slightly ahead of the game, I`m not a lame
Ask him, he`ll tell you the same he knows my name
Smooth, I drop jewels like, paraphenalia
I`m infallable, not into failure
Like a rhinocerus, my speed is prosperous
And pure knowledge expands from my esophagus
I write here tonite to bring truth to the light
My dialogue is my own cause Smooth B will neva bite
[Premier scratches and hooks]
That was all worth it just for the "Lemonade" line. Fookin' legendary.
(That was "DWYCK" by Gang Starr, BTW)
Posted by
Sul, 13:55, 25th June 2003:
Cal: Ok mate. Let you off ;)
Posted by
Sul, 13:55, 25th June 2003:
One Night Me And The Crew Hit The Road On A Mission
To Slurp Free Brew And Go Fuzzy Flounder Fishin'
Kayjees On The Hi-Fi And The Keg Was Bottomless
Until We Brought Skip O' Pot2mus
And Daddy's Gonna Get Some Probably Underage And Dumb
And Everybody Knows That The Daddy Eats His Young
Lupus In The Lavatory Making A Big Stink
Macing Up The Toilet Seat And Pooping In The Sink
M.S.G.¹S Tanked Up And Wizzin' In A Cup
Waiting For A Sprinkle Genie To Come And Drink It Up
Cause I'm The One Bottle Willy With The 12 Horse Ale
After That I Get Silly Like Soupy Sales
Now It's Midnight And I'm Completely Boofy Blitzed
A Six Of Shlitz And The Jew Brew Manischewitz
With My Beer-Tinted Glasses I'm Ready To Bitty Battle
I'm Hungry Like The Wolf But I'll End Up Tending Cattle
Cause You're Pretty When I'm Drunk
(You're Pretty When I'm Drunk)
[X4]
(And I'm Pretty Fuckin' Drunk)
Here She Comes, A Funky Fried Cutie
Mr. Jimmy Pop Ali Is Gonna Get Some Booty
Cause I'm Mr. Mcfeelie With A Speedy Delivery
You'd Think I Was A Ditch The Way This Chick Was Diggin' Me
But Maybe I Should Check And See If This Is Where I Wanna Be
Hey Lupus Is She Cute? Yea For A Pygmie
Aw! What Do You Know? You're Probably Going Home Alone
And It Wouldn't Be The First Time That I Gave A Dog A Bone
Plus Beauty, It's Only Skin Deep
It's In The Eye Of The Beholder And My Beholder's About To Tweak
I Could Tap That Barrel, In Fact I Know I Can
It's A Ménagé A Trois You And Me And Heineken
Cause You're Pretty When I'm Drunk
(You're Pretty When I'm Drunk) [X4]
Regrets I've Had A Few
First And Foremost I'd Like To Mention You
For The Sake Of Conversation We'll Call You The Brand New Heavy
Your A Mix Between An Ugnaut And Eugene Levy
You Can Call It Big-Boned, I Prefer To Call It Gut
Your Buddha Your Shamu Your Jabba The Fuckin' Hutt
You Had Harpoon Scars And Your Boobies Were Hairy
I Smelt Tuna Melt But I Wasn¹T Gonna Worry
It Was 3 A.M. And I Wasn't Gettin' Squat
So I Rolled You Up In Flour And Aimed It For The Wet Spot
I Was Buttering Rolls Like A Soup Kitchen Christian
Then It Hit Me Something Bit Me While My Little Rod Was Fishin'
I Was Deep Sea Fishing I Took A Fat Chance
But How Was I Supposed To Know That Jabberjaws
Lived In Your Pants
At That Junction I Came To Realize
That Only Frank Purdue Likes Thighs That Size
Fatty Fatty Boom Ba Latty I Gotta Lament
That You Were Not A Girl You Were An Experiment
Cause You're Pretty When I'm Drunk
(You're Pretty When I'm Drunk)
You're Pretty When I'm Drunk
And I'm pretty fucking drunk
Posted by
beargod, 14:04, 25th June 2003:
I love that tune :)
You will love it here then Foggie, cause the girls here always wearing short skirts and low cut tops. It is a very nice view. I will have to take you to Georgetown so we can check out all the girls and for me the guys. :)
Posted by
Sul, 14:22, 25th June 2003:
me too
It was Bloodhoung Gang btw
Posted by
beargod, 15:06, 25th June 2003:
that bloodhound gang track has just started on my mp3 playlist :)
Nov, if you take me to a place where all the women wear short skirts and small tops then i migth not leave, either that or i will get the jail. Could be fun, never been in a American jail.
Posted by
Sul, 16:04, 25th June 2003:
you been in any other nations jail?
Eh, Spain..France...oh obviously Scotland. Not jails as such, but cells.
Posted by
Sul, 16:11, 25th June 2003:
I've never been arrested or slung inside for anything! One of the many things I
have to experience.
I'm going to make a list.
Its not fun..especially in Spain, France asnt to bad though...they gave me headache pills in the morning which i thought was really nice of them.
Posted by
Sul, 16:25, 25th June 2003:
what happened in spain?
nothing bad..the cells are dirty, plus they are not nice, they were pushing and pulling me all over the station. Just cause i was drunk.
Posted by
Sul, 16:35, 25th June 2003:
the bastards! ;)
Posted by
Grim..., 16:36, 25th June 2003:
I got thrown in a cell once for stealing a policemans helmet and running off with it (I was very drunk at the time).
I made myself sick by putting my fingers in my throat out of spite - the place was
covered =]
i don't really like Eminem. He's always so negitive. I really hate him.
Posted by
jlittle, 09:37, 26th June 2003:
Grim, youre so... Grim!
Posted by
Grim..., 09:40, 26th June 2003:
Thanks.
Coolcat - you went from not really liking to really hating in four words!
That must be a record!
Posted by
beargod, 09:46, 26th June 2003:
Eminem can do that
iznt this convo bout eminem!? lol
Posted by
Grim..., 16:27, 27th June 2003:
Perhaps she meant 'My God your threads rocket off topic like nothing I've ever seen before'.
But this one stayed on topic quite well, I think (apart from people instantly going 'I don't like Eminem! He sucks because...' - Yeah, well I do and I went to the concert).