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something MUST be done to these fuckers
stuffing them in a jar filled with spelling mistakes doesn't seem enough
any suggestions?

Why are you so pissy about it? We hardly ever pick on you, despite all the opportunities...

;)

yeah fuck of yoo tossars.

Just as a completely unrelated aside, I have just been reminded that 2 of the so called (and much maligned) Pedant Police have administrator powers. Apparently, they can remove people's approval, or even ban them!! Blimey, eh?!

Don't know why I mention it, it just accured to me.

Ho hum ;)

Well you don't pick on me becasue i could care less, and also when i get picked on i porposley make mestakes

i am sooooo scared

Just because you are moderators (not administrators) doesn't mean you don't bore the fuck out of everybody with your spelling bullshit.

Administrator powers, though, just not all of them... Moderator didn't sound scary enough.

:(

I like "boring the fuck out of" you, Grim... You get all grumpy about it, which makes me laugh. And if we weren't picking you up on your fuck-ups, let's face it, there wouldn't be enough content in your posts to make them worth responding to at all. Bless.

;)

I'm not a mod (and I don't know how Brock managed it, unless he's Cal's cyber-sex slave) but I refuse to let standards slip. Otherwise it'll be txt-speak and l33t before we know it.

Anyway, I'm an old fart, so I'm SUPPOSED to show you young 'uns the errors of your ways all the time.

And while I'm at it, su (Su), I've always taken issue with the expression, 'I could care less.' Surely it should be, 'I could'nt care less.'

It's boring. This site used to be busy, but now it's populated by a load of stupid kids post in the intro section (on a quick aside, where the fuck do they all come from? I mean, I know there's a lot of them about but this site gets way more than it should), and Brock telling the kids to fuck off.

No-one's going to spend three minutes re-reading and checking their post to make sure everything is correct, so someone makes a mistake, on of the 'spelling twats' comes along, makes noise about it, and pulls the entire thread (even further) off track.

Hmm, yeah: Funny.

Point taken. But some of them ARE funny. However, I will try to resist the temptation in future.

And it's even worse when someone tries to be clever, corrects someone else, and makes more mistakes...



Could'nt?

it's not just you lot
some idiot i don't even know was rude to me in flickr today because of my lack of care over spelling

is it some new cool trend i have no idea about?

Honestly, WH - when is it funny?

In truth, there seems to be a lot less worth talking about at the mo. Are we going through a lean patch, do you think?

Are we all lacking creative juices?

(And yes, I AM Cal's cyber sex-slave)

The whole pedantic thing started long before I was here, and I got dragged into it when me and Abe started fighting.

Let's think of something better to talk about then...

Yes, true and I hate it when that happens, particularly to me. Thank goodness for the 'edit' facility.



That all depends on yer sense of humour, doesn't it? Some of them make ME laugh.

Where was that rather cool looking page that showed all the google search terms that lead here? The one with all the bright colours and big text. Man, that rocked!

Brock: Okay, I'll start a nice 'argumentative' topic.

And if you stop being pedantic, I won't point out that you seem to be crap at using brackets =]

yeah how does that whole iamcal google thing work?

He has no shelves?

it is su not Su

Very well. Have it your own way. But don't say I didn't warn you.

Brackets? What? Where?

you better find then dude or else you'll never get the shelves back up again

su: Web sites can tell what site a person was on before they got the your own site. So when someone comes to IAmCal via google Cal can tell what google URL they came from.
Because it's quite easy to tell what someone was searching for on google, cal strips the search terms from the google url, sticks them in a database, adds them up and 'bugat', there they are.

nifty

grim... you bore the fuck out of everyone regardless of how your posts are spelt.

*Hides behind desk*

Alfie! Where the fuck have you been while I have been defending the Pedant Collective?

:)

accured?

Chay: Don't make me remind you of something that happened... Ooh... Just about a year or so ago...

www.iamcal.com/google2.php perchance?

Um, why are people searching for buttmutt?

That'll be the one.

Geek...?

i could care less info

I love the internet (and google) there is now not any excuse for not knowing something.
By that I mean if you ever thought of something you would like to know about, or the origins of, then you can find it so quickly.

It rules

and "I could care less" is as annoying as "cheap at half the price".

"on of the 'spelling twats'"

???

'Cheap at half the price' really annoys me too - also people that say 'pacific' instead of 'specific'.

And "Arctic" for a big lorry.

Instead of "Artic"

/resists 'big lorry' argument...

yellow lorry?

red lorry.
wow. I am witty.

Yeah, and anyway, it's articliated, innit? I hate abbreviations.

and expresso instead of espresso. that really gets my goat so it does.

I'd like to be classified as one of the 'spelling twats' but one with great double standards.

Show us your 'great double standards' jeff, you know you want to.

Hur, hur.

You're as bad as Brick!

I'm not sure if I should be insulted.

I'll get back to you on that.

Who started spellchecking everyone's posts anyway? I'm sure it was that frat Vic.

it was probably me :)

Possibly the first time was by krayzieman, right here

The ex/espresso really annoys me too. Particularly as I have a smattering of Italian anyway, and it gets right on my tits when you go into Pizza Express or the like, and you order dishes correctly, and they correct you to the English bastardisation as they take the order.

I have to fight making the point that they can't speak the names of dishes on their own damn menu's properly... You'd think they would be trained. Not to correct the customers that get it wrong necessarily, but at least to know the correct pronunciation when they hear it..

And here's me thinking you were just an arsehole when you were online...


=]

Mind you, I've done the opposite - we were in an Italian restaurant and the waiter came up: "Heeeey! Are you a-ready for your drinks-a?"
To which I replied: "Please-a! You're about-a as Italian as-a-me!"
Waiter: "Fair enough, mate. What do you want to drink?"

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You've been posting alot of links of late, Cal. You should start a blog or something.

nah - blogs are sooooooo 2003

So what's "in" this season on t'internet?

i like those cartoons!



TOO you frikkin moron. Unless of course you're thinking of joining the double standards brigade? I'd just like to say also, that the only reason I do it is because my brother used to correct my emails and I thought I'd pass the irritation on (bit like an STD but less fun)

sul, Flickr, that's what's in apparently..

/makes irritated muttley kind of noises

Typo. Buggerfuckcuntbollocks.

I still dont "get" fickr :/

I dont like how IRC like it is. I admire it but I cant see me using it. I dont have an abundance of images I want to share with people and I dont really like IRC chats. Too fast moving and full of crap.

IMHO obviously.

Did I mention I admire the bloke that made it and think he's waaaay cool and that his cock is probably well big etc?

The time stamp alarm thing that pops up when you're in a conversation is pretty cool.

I know what you mean about flickr. I didn't get it at all to begin with, and I agree about the IRC thing. And people keep dropping the same pics into the conversations, and not necessarily for any good reason. But there are quite a few nice featurettes I like, e.g. all your interests in your profile becoming hot links so you can identify all other subscribers with similar interests. And there are new features coming live all the time, so it's going to be interesting to see where it ends up.

I've tried to start a blog a number of times and I just don't feel motivated to put stuff in there all the time. it was interesting to install the blog software and see it work, but after that I lost interest.

I really like flickr, but I don't have access at work because of the blasted firewall restrictions. (I can't get into the realtime chat feature.) I visit sometimes when I am at home. Also, it is very nice of them to let me store my pictures on their webspace while I hotlink them elsewhere.. =)

long live flickr!

/me still doesnt get it

mmmm irony, tastey

I feel the same about blogs.

The idea behind blogs appears to be the idea that other people want to hear your opinions. In most cases noone cares. Why would they? Your autobiography stuck in a world-line type senario, no beginning and no end like an autobiography that starts when you first hit finger to key. People like to read biographies because its a full story. Unless you have something interesting to say then your blog (sulsplace for instance) is pure selfwank. Thats not to say its not a good thing. A blog (I'm using the term very loosely here incorporating online journals too) can be as useful as a private alternative. My notebook will mean nothing to you but to me it hold a lot of stuff I'd not like to forget. Just because you come across something "I" wrote doesnt mean I want you to take in my wisdom and change your life over it.
It's in my opinion that most(alot of) blogs/journals are of a personal nature and are used to document a life that seems ordinary to most but to a select few a life of similarity or guidance.


sorry about the spelling

the best things about flickr do not occur in the main chat room
except maybe 'i spy'

grate cartoons

"cartoon's", surely

some blogs are good, must are arse. like everything really.

saying "blogs are rubbish" is as dumb as saying "blogs are great". blogs being defined as a list of chronological entries of *stuff* (which is the currently accepted definition). so a news page on a corporate site is a blog. it's akin to saying "lists are rubbish" or "lists are great". they are neither - it's the content that matters.

list's are grate

grates are grate

Thank you Sul/Cal.

OK, so it seems blogs are exactly what I expected them to be, which in an individual's case is just 'My diary' but stored on-line instead of a file on a PC, or a paper version. The bit that still puzzles me (and I don't expect anyone to be able to give a definitive answer to this) is why people publish the URLs for these things unless they really want other people to read them.

After all, once you post the URL anywhere, you can't be sure who else will be reading it. I've seen some that I'm sure the author didn't want random people to see, i.e. very personal stuff indeed. Which makes me wonder whether subconsciously the did want people to see them.

And as you've said, a lot of what is written is really only of interest to the author. So why do it on-line rather than in a Word file on your PC? Why spend time with all that fancy formatting unless you do want other people to see it?

well i think if you spent time reading a veriety of blogs you'd notice that some are wired differnt to others. when you come across one of those gems, it's fantastic.

i blog inside a community, we all know each other, so our blogs become a way to communicate ideas.

A-ha, so there's more to it than meets the eye.

However, I'd never have time to glance at all the blogs I see links to. I'd never be doing anything else. I get the idea about a blog community ..... but then why have to visit so many blogs to see what your friends are saying when there are so many free forums around where you can all post in one place?

I guess it's all down to personal preference.

You may be thinking, 'Warhead is an old dummy, not understanding all this stuff.'

But I've been working on IT since before the net became generally available to most people. The speed of development has been incredible. Just keeping up with the latest trends is one hell of a job, and I got to the point where I stopped trying, because so many hot new fads disappeared without trace very rapidly. It's easy to climb aboard a wagon only to find the wheels coming off before the journey has even begun.

So have a little sympathy for me. You may find yourselves in the same position in a few years.

Blog: Web Log.

Not all blogs are personal.

And not all of them are not.

"so many hot new fads disappeared without trace"

Blogs have been a relatively long lasting "fad" then. Have been around for years.

Absolutely. So blogs were a fad that caught on. But I've read in the IT press that they're losing favour. And how can you tell what's going to last and what's not? You can't be sure what's going to capture people's imagination, or what new and better technology will render things obsolete, or at least make them seem unattractive.

I personally don't know many people who started blogs when they first became trendy, so they've tended to pass me by.

If you just want an on-line place to store your thoughts etc. you can create a private group in flickr, but while flickr doesn't have all the same whistles and bells as a blog, it does offer additional facilities in one place. Maybe flickr, or something like it, is the future of blogging. Or maybe it'll be something else entirely. If I knew what it was maybe I'd be rich and not doing this bloody job.

they are only losing favour because the IT press has finally realised they exist
thus to cover up for the fact that they (the IT press) know sweet fuck all, they are saying blogs are yesterdays news

flickr is the future of social software.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Do you have shares in Ludicorp?

nope none at all

but like you WH i've been online doing lovely things like gopher and building my own html pages since about 94/95. flickr is the first thing i've seen to bring multiple concepts, like groups, IM, and images together.

people like the idea of their "own site" with their own style and stuff. so i guess a group forum place isn't for everyone as you are somewhat limited as to style and content.

'orses fer courses then, innit.

yup

aiyiyi, i am WITH you on this one WH. i've been heavily netted since my first fulltime account in.... i was about to say 1983 but my first permanent one wasn't till start of 1985. and jeez, the number of "new" technologies. and you get sick to fucking death of the newbies bleating oo oo how amazingly new and superior and wonderful THIS thing du jour is. bollocks. mac os x for example. hmm. another standard *nix filemanager with an appallingly poorly thoughtout application switcher and a fixed screentop menubar. huge regression even on 9, let alone 8. and anyone who's used atariOS can not find it in themselves to get excited about the same thing more than a decade later running like a dog on machines so excruciatingly faster it makes your eyes water just to think about it.

and each new reiteration rebuilding the same pre-existing functionality means you have to relearn new interfaces/gestures/keystrokes to do the same bloody thing. yawn and grr. whereas if we WERE actually ADVANCING we'd all be using OpenDoc on Netware.

personally i see blogs as just another content-distribution platform --pull rather than push like news-- with the advantage of allowing per-user formatting/presentation/static-context choices. otherwise, vast chunks of the blogoverse is like a low-quality-info high-quality-graphics version of news. variation on a news in-joke for any old-timers

this is why i'm enjoying iamcal -- it's a little bit like the old news culture of late80s early90s. [spaff!] [kibo!]

/rant

i've recieved mail from kibo ^_^

Is that relevant?

No it's KIBO. Specsavers for you on Tuesday Mr Warhead. :/

Very poor. Even for this time on a Friday night.

All my jokes are poor!

I may be getting a writing credit in a show and it's going to read:

/looks around

there were jokes?

/shrugs

Cal: email from kibo?!? impressed.

or was it from one of his ur-bots? :)

Um. Who's kibo?

/bans brock

<tsk!>
they'll let ANYONE in here nowadays

kibo was an early news legend, you needed but say his name and kibo would respond. the miracle of a full feed and grep... ;)

http://www.kibo.com/faq/

oo i'd FORGOTTEN this one:


> IS THIS QUESTION GOING TO BE IN THE FAQ?
>
> Not until the next edition.

oo this is like a flashback to the old days. next thing you know the usenet oracle will come back!!! i really want that one with the 4foot b1ff .sig including the beaver

hey, pedants on bash:

[TheThree] your special?
[Mj] you're
[TheThree] sorry my grammer sucks
[Mj] grammar
[TheThree] as dose my spelling
[Mj] does
[TheThree] i give up
[Mj] I

Brilliant.

/gives gold star

hahaha