Discussion » one for Brock and Grimothy to battle it out over

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Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
carsguide.news.com.au/news/...

Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
assuming grim... can get a hand free to type atm
Posted by Brock, around September 2005:
 
Subarus do very little for me, really. It's not the most flattering picture, though, is it?

There is every chance that the car has been styled around some sort of performance advantage (aero or cooling requirements, for instance) in which case I approve. If it's purely aesthetic, then I move between apathy and not approving.

Cars should be functional. Anything else is pointless and a waste of a power to weight ratio. You don't last very long in racing unless you don't think like that, really.

Of course, there are times when comfort and opulence are part of the function (i.e. Bentleys, for an extremne example) in which case that's ok. But in this instance (i.e. in a competition car) there is very little room for aesthetics in my tolerance band. Although a pretty car is very often a fast one. Not many ugly racing cars turn out to be fast.
Posted by WarHead, around September 2005:
 
I've seen something very similar in the last few days, driving around here. Same body shape, but without the crash bars or advertising on the body. First time it was an Asian guy driving it, second time was an Asian girl. Maybe they're bro and sister.
Posted by ellipse, around September 2005:
 
it's so ugly
Posted by cal_DUPE1, around 8th September 2005:
 
grim probably wont reply for a while - still on his honeymoon afaik
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 8th September 2005:
 
cal can't spell fuck
Posted by Brock, around 8th September 2005:
 
In which case I should probably start about six arguments and claim victory in his absence.

YEAH! I WIN!
Posted by Grim..., around September 2005:
 
It's the only way you could claim victory, bitch - and the only way we'll never hear you whine 'but Grim... changed what he was saying' in your pale, skinny-assed pigeon-chested, ad hominem little way.

Completely agree with you about the Scooby-Doo
Posted by Grim..., around September 2005:
 
I remember what I was going to ask you, Brockles, as I seem to remember you working with aeroplanes:
Can jumbo-jets go backward (while on the ground, obv.) under their own power? And if so, how?
Posted by Brock, around September 2005:
 
Yes. Lots of jets can. They change the pitch of the blades on the engines, and produce reverse thrust. You must be familiar with that? The whooshing noise when planes slow down?

Although the wheel brakes do about 70% of the braking, the engines do contribute. They can, through this reverse thrust, go backwards, it's just a massively inefficient way to do it and they can't see where they are going so they don't usually bother.

747's also can take off into somethtng like a 22 deg crosswind. All three lots of wheels are steerable, and so they can crab (facing into wind) straight down the runway and take off at a reet funnt angle. I can look up a picture if you care enough.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
here is a jumbo jet going backwards and sideways:

www.avpics.de/mov/civ/747_t...

(more here, incl. background to that link: www.aviationpics.de/test/te...)
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
So the turbines still turn in the same direction?
Posted by ellipse, around September 2005:
 
yeah but can a jumbo jet do the chicken dance?
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
the most-used commercial jets use "buckets", which swing out from teh rear of the engine and deflect the thrust forwards. if you're next to the engine on landing, look at the rear of it. so, yes, the turbines still turn in the same direction.
Posted by WarHead, around September 2005:
 
Do they change direction when they cross the equator?
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 


"subaru wrx... 4 cylinders, 2 turbochargers, 1 supercharger... goal is 800hp"
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
there's a big closeup towards the end of the comments which is rather more impressive
Posted by syl_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
How to get rid of the girls : start talking about cars!
Posted by Brock, around September 2005:
 
And yet you're still here...

I'm sure there is a conclusion there somewhere.
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 

This is a better engine - because it's in something that can do this:
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
My pictures have gone ):
Posted by Brock, around September 2005:
 
No they haven't.
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
I can't see them...
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
Hmm - I can't see them on Firefox - maybe it's my Adblocker...
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
Nope, they don't seem to show up at all on Firefox.
Anyone else use it?
Posted by Brock, around September 2005:
 
On firefox, and have no problems.

Is it all dark where you are? Have you got your eyes shut?
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
Nope. And it's working again.
/shrugs
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around September 2005:
 
is THIS what brock&grim think tricked-up cars will do for THEM?
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around October 2005:
 
the UTE!

therrrr UUUUUUTTTE!!!!!!!



This year the muster committee signed on for a 10-year lease of some government land to the north of town.
...
Lindsay understands Ute love - the passion, the devotion, the obsession the muster has so successfully tapped into.

The Ute is a hugely practical workhorse rural Australians can't live without.

It carts, hauls, spotlights, and tows, has room in the back for a dog and a swag, yet there are enough shapes, colours, and brands around so people can drive the Ute that suits them, their image, their job.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around October 2005:
 
hmm
"I think it is a bit of a phenomenon which is just starting to rear its head. We have always had a love affair with the Ute but in the last few years Ford has come out with a new Ute, so has Holden, so the whole thing is on the boil. People have started to talk utes, think Utes etc so that means we are actually getting onto the race track with them. They go like hell and they steer pretty well too," Peter Brock said

remember: brocky is a fucking racing LEGEND. "king of the mountain" dropping his driving wheel off the edge of the track round a 90 degree bend cut into the hill over a 20 foot drop with his tail out.
casual-like.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around October 2005:
 
oh christ though. he is SUCH a fucking NSWelshman/South-Easterner.
"There are a lot of women coming up to me asking me to sign my dash or bonnet and I say ‘this your Ute’ and they say ‘yeah’, they are really quite proud and up to speed with the mechanical aspects and stuff like that so it is not just a boyish thing. Well it is but I think the women have the attitude 'if you can't beat them join them'. I can put a sticker on my car too and there are some ripper stickers too, some of these girls have no shame," Peter said.

Say that shit in Qld or WA and they'd tell you to fuck off, petey boy.

damn. i just lost all respect for the man.

feels the same as watching rossi race when he's pushed. skill doesn't mean you have to shit on other people/fuck them up when they're playing fair and you're not.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around October 2005:
 
ignore the southeastern shit

obvSERVE the REALITY of AUSTRALIA, rather than the gameplayers:



(note the numberplate :D )
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
hey check these out:

Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
Baby...

Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
Baby...

Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
hmph. that blogger link keeps disappearing. let's see if a flickr copy works any better

-> yup, it does
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
hmmm... a blogger image fails yet a flickr image works perfectly. on CAL'S site!!!111
coINcidence??
i think not...
Posted by Doctor Lucid_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
With the exception of one Arsepuppy post, we've just witnessed Salty talk to himself over 10 posts. Duude.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
12. i actually burgled your account for that last post.
Posted by SuperFunGordon_DUPE1, around 12th October 2005:
 
And maybe I AM Salty...
Posted by Brock, around 12th October 2005:
 
I've never licked you, and I have no intention of trying it.
Posted by syl_DUPE1, around 13th October 2005:
 
We wanna see Brock lick SuperFunGordon!
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 23rd October 2005:
 


yes! it's the Hudspith Steam Bicycle!


this is actually pretty cool
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 23rd October 2005:
 
Posted by syl_DUPE1, around 23rd October 2005:
 
Hope it's not gonna burn his arse! Or foot... :)
Posted by WarHead, around 23rd October 2005:
 
I think this is actually pretty HOT!!111
Posted by syl_DUPE1, around 24th October 2005:
 
I think it's a very English mode of transport : you can make yourself a cuppa while you chug along.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 14th November 2005:
 
two more!

Etch-a-Sketch overlays!



and something for the school-run:

Posted by cal_DUPE1, 14th November 2005:
 
that's totally lady penelope's car
Posted by Grim..., around 24th November 2005:
 
From aaaaaaages ago:
Yes. Lots of jets can. They change the pitch of the blades on the engines, and produce reverse thrust. You must be familiar with that? The whooshing noise when planes slow down?

Although the wheel brakes do about 70% of the braking, the engines do contribute. They can, through this reverse thrust, go backwards, it's just a massively inefficient way to do it and they can't see where they are going so they don't usually bother.

747's also can take off into somethtng like a 22 deg crosswind. All three lots of wheels are steerable, and so they can crab (facing into wind) straight down the runway and take off at a reet funnt angle. I can look up a picture if you care enough.

Yes, please. Video's would be better though.
Posted by Brock, around 25th November 2005:
 
Ok. Hang on.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 25th November 2005:
 
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 25th November 2005:
 
Real Men don't go around.
Talk about pucker factor.

"While some of those photos are obviously botched approaches and landings,
several are actually S.O.P. (standard operating procedure). The 747 is built to withstand landings
where the actual touchdown occurs at as much as a 45 degree crab angle.
This is because the wing mounted engines only allow a very small amount of bank angle at
touchdown to prevent an engine strike. So, 747 pilots must us the "crab method" of crosswind correction
all the way through touchdown, instead of the more landing gear friendly "wing low method."
Boeing tested this theory in 45 knot direct crosswinds with no damage to the aircraft or its landing gear."



Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 25th November 2005:
 
oh, and check out the Semtex vs. Jumbo video in the hidden part of the post
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 25th November 2005:
 
oh and also from ages ago: brock, note that if an air traffic controller saw this last (deliberate experiment) on radar, because this is outside of standard airline guidelines, it would be regarded as a military aircraft since only the military are ROUTINELY allowed to throw an aircraft round like that. it's a permission issue, not an airframe issue.
Posted by Brock, around 25th November 2005:
 
www.aviationpics.de

I assume that is where these came from. That quote is certainly on there, anyway. I was trying to find some video from the dullest plane spotting site in the world, and fell asleep through tedium.
Posted by Brock, around 25th November 2005:
 
Not the same thing, but here's a video of a scary arse approach:

www.metacafe.com/watch/3041...
Posted by WarHead, around 25th November 2005:
 
Boeing tested this theory in 45 knot direct crosswinds with no damage to the aircraft or its landing gear."


But a lot of the passenger seats are ruined.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 3rd December 2005:
 
www.physorg.com/news8675.html
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 9th December 2005:
 
ryanair are offering cheap tickets atm

Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 2nd February 2006:
 

Posted by WarHead, around 2nd February 2006:
 
It's amazing what you can do with a bit of sticky-back-plastic.
Posted by Grim..., around 2nd February 2006:
 
Wow.
Posted by Brock, around 2nd February 2006:
 
It's amazing why you would want to do that with sticky backed anything.
Posted by Grim..., around 3rd February 2006:
 
I've just ordered one of these:


Click for bigness

It's 4wd Brock - is that okay?
Posted by Grim..., around 3rd February 2006:
 
It's that colour, too. Hopefully the steering wheel will be on the other side, though.
Posted by Sul_DUPE1, around 3rd February 2006:
 
Remember to keep the box.
Posted by Grim..., around 3rd February 2006:
 
Heehee, yah.
It'll be worth more in 50 years =]
Posted by Brock, around 3rd February 2006:
 
Better 4WD than nasty as fuck-FWD. Not my thing, personally, although I have never disliked Mazdas. I drove the entire range on a regular basis some years ago, and a selection of the high performance ones a couple of years ago, and they are pretty competent cars in the main. There's plenty of other things I would have spent that much money on if it was for me, though. Rather predictably, I'd go for a S/H BMW 5-series and not lose the £6K you will straight away on depreciation.

Each to their own and that.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 3rd February 2006:
 
a thought: buy _in australia_ a 20 year old Monaro (no rust: our petrol is clean), ship it over here, fit new suspension (suspension costs fuck all, weirdly). more power and more fun than the bmw 5, equal road holding, rear wheel drive, half the price. probably even avoid road tax! you know it makes sense.
Posted by WarHead, around 3rd February 2006:
 
Well anyway, I'VE just ordered one of these

Nnnnneeeeeeeooooowwwwwwww...
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around 3rd February 2006:
 
rear leg drive!

plus: good for handbrake skiddies
Posted by Grim..., around 4th February 2006:
 
Brock: It was very, very cheap =]
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around February 2006:
 


early version of the Audi Q7
Posted by WarHead, around February 2006:
 
And what a problem that would cause if it suddenly lost power on the outside lane of the M6.
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around February 2006:
 
diodes everywhere
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around February 2006:
 


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Posted by Brock, around February 2006:
 
That race team (or a fan thereof) has a flickr account, too. If the thought of looking for it didn't make me want to smash stuff, I'd look for it.
Posted by Sul_DUPE1, around August 2006:
 
The mystery of The Ghost Car... can it be explained?
Posted by Saltation_DUPE1, around August 2006:
 
YOOJ twilightchargers