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2 July 1969

When was your birthday, surely? Although it still isn't right. Your earliest birthday was 2/7/1970, i.e. your FIRST birthday. You meant "When were you born?"

The correct answer to the question you posed would be 2nd of July 2006 - "When is your birthday".

/pedant mode off

;)

Oh alriiiiiiiiiiiight. :) What date were you born? (I thought some people might be embarrassed about putting the year, so they could just go 2 July) Brockles, when's ye birthday?

10th June, innit. 1972.

maybe syl's japanese. traditional japanese first birthday occurs as you pop out.

in any case, "when's" can serve as abbreviation for either of "when is" and "when was". lose 10 pedant points.

I knew you must be a Gemini Brockles...
....Thanks, Salty! How about you? Birthday?

Your birthday. Birth Day. The day of your birth.

Her earliest birthday was 2 July 1969 because it was the day of her birth. Not rocket science really.

Subsequent "Birthdays" are celebrations of her actual Birth Day.

Definition
birthday Show phonetics
noun [C]
the day that is exactly a year or number of years after a person was born:
Happy birthday!
Are you going to Ellen's birthday party next week?
It's her 21st birthday.

(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

birth‧day S2 W3 [See pronunciation table in "How to use dictionary" pages] [countable]
1TMC your birthday is a day that is an exact number of years after the day you were born:
[Look up a word starting with D or S for samples of headword or sentence pronunciations on the LDOCE CD-ROM] He was in Kansas to celebrate his 74th birthday.
happy birthday! (=what you say on someone's birthday)
birthday card/gift/party etc
[Look up a word starting with D or S for samples of headword or sentence pronunciations on the LDOCE CD-ROM] Anne's birthday party
the birthday girl/boy informal (=the person whose birthday it is)
2 a day that is an exact number of years since an organization was established or an event first happened [↪ anniversary]:
[Look up a word starting with D or S for samples of headword or sentence pronunciations on the LDOCE CD-ROM] The City of Cleveland Orchestra is celebrating its 200th birthday.
3 in your birthday suit informal not wearing any clothes - used humorously

Jacket image of the Compact Oxford English Dictionary


birthday

• noun the annual anniversary of the day on which a person was born.

Wrongola, Alfie. "Birthday" is not the same as "Birth day". Same as "you'rewrong" doesn't mean the same thing as "you're wrong".

:)

" Subsequent "Birthdays" are celebrations of her actual Birth Day."

Although you got THAT bit right.

That, dear readers, is a four post display of pure manliness.

mine is 20 days away

Your first post in this thread made me think you were a total dickhead, attempting to compensate, in some strange way, for some of your severe inadequacies.

But those last four proved it.

Oh and I like the way you chose dictionary entries that support your case, ignoring ones that don't. There's a job waiting for you in a government office somewhere. Hurry along.

(and two can play at the dickhead-trying-to-make-up-for-some-severe-inadequacies game)

*cough*

birth·day Audio pronunciation of "birthday" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bûrthd)
n.

1. The day of one's birth.
2. The anniversary of one's birth.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

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birthday

n 1: an anniversary of the day on which a person was born (or the celebration of it) 2: the date on which a person was born [syn: natal day]

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

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birthday

A birthday is the date on which a person was born. It is customary in many cultures to celebrate the anniversary of one's birthday in some way.

(Wikipedia)

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The noun birthday has 2 meanings:

Meaning #1: an anniversary of the day on which a person was born

Meaning #2: the date on which a person was born

(Wordnet)

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All of which are american publications, Alfie (and two of them are the same Princeton source). I used English ones, because they are correct rather than completely fucking made up.

What exactly is your point? I speak English, as indeed do (should?) you.

Your serve, fuckball.

My case still stands.

You abused someone for using "when's" to mean "when was". They were quite correct in doing so (according to Salty at least, I haven't really thought that one through).

You abused the same person for incorrectly using the word "birthday", they didn't. You were just unaware of the broader definition of the word.

Next you will be telling me that you deliberately typed "American" with a lowercase "a" because they don't deserve an uppercase one.

Whatever you need to justify your crusade to yourself.

I'm all for pedantry, but at least try to be correct when correcting others. Or if it's a grey (gray?!) area, then perhaps leave it alone?

And how exactly are the American sources any more "fucking made up" than the English ones?

Are you suggesting that people not be allowed to use anything other that the Queen's English on a website hosted in North America by a man living in North America?

Plus, I thought you would show more gratitude to the country that invented the Turtle Wax that has usurped the Brylcreem's treasured position in your bathroom cabinet.

Goodness, I could have done with a comma, or two, in that last sentence.

"Next you will be telling me that you deliberately typed "American" with a lowercase "a" because they don't deserve an uppercase one."

Check every single time I have typed 'america' or 'france' on here or Flickr for the last year or more. Then eat your words. This is exactly the reason that it was started, along with that charming mad Mr Menendez, and spawned such as the phrase fucking french whenever france was mentioned.

"You were just unaware of the broader definition of the word."

Er. No. The definitions I quoted are giving correct English. I am, as you are surely aware, strongly opposed to americanisms. This is one of them. I don't consider american publications to over-ride the Oxford, Longman and Cambridge presses without serious justification. There is none, in this instance, that I have found so far.

I am not saying that people are not allowed to use any other 'form' or bastardisation of English, I am just saying that I am of the opinion that it is wrong, and definitely not correct English. america is almost entirely responsible for the dramatic reduction in people's ability to speak English properly through bad education, media flooding and laziness. They make up many of their own rules, and then teach them as correct. It irritates the shit out of me, frankly.

I still have to find a decent reference for Salti's point, but it is not a usage that I have used or am aware of; I am checking it out to satisfy myself either way. I'm prepared to be corrected, obviously, IF he is right.

Regardless, when I posted after Syl's comment, I was (clearly enough to her) playing. She took it in the vein that it was intended. You, on the other hand, appear to be having a hormonal attack about it. Who are you defending? Her? Hardly necessary, as Syl wasn't bothered by it.

Why would you use a lowercase for "america" and "france", when such a dedicated follower of English must know that the use of a capital letter at the beginning of a proper noun is not optional? By doing so, you aren't "cussing" those countries, merely weakening your argument for correct English usage.

"They make up many of their own rules"

Yes, because, of course, British English is known far and wide for its logical and tidy approach to language. Wouldn't catch us making up a load of unfeasible rules that are broken left, right and centre.

I'm not defending Syl. I was defending the spirit of pedantry that says you should at least try and be correct before correcting others.

And if that's your idea of "playing" then I pity the women you've (allegedly) known.

I'm all ranted out now.
Phew!
I needed that.
Cheers Brock :) Same time next week?

*thud*

Re: Upper case being optional - If it was optional, my refusal to acknowledge that either country deserves one wouldn't have any impact, would it? The fact that someone as determined to get things right as myself deliberately flouts the laws that I respect so much to make a point, is where the importance of that point is. If it was optional, it would just look like I couldn't be arsed to use the shift key. Rather like a person claiming to be a vegetarian on moral grounds, but then eating KFC and McDonalds because they couldn't be arsed to walk a bit further for a salad.

Innit.

And as for 'playing', some women like it rough. Perhaps I am just a better judge of that than you...?

Hey chaps...chaps! That stuff is very interesting, but I just wanted to know when your birthday is/was whatever...Ya know? Please?

So, ellipse, yours is on the 1st November? (Scorpio?) By the way, your cricket chaps are here and Shane Bond is Yummy! ;)

17th january 1981

(i also had to look up january in the dictionary. fuck)

To work out which month was before February?

1981. Fuck. I remember that.

Hang on - *thinks*. Someone in Africa wants personal details from me. Hmmm. Yeah, I've been burned like this before.

18 Feb 1954...... 1981/1972/1969 ... I remember those ... I, er, think. In fact I started work in October 1972. And I can spell Feberiwebbery without a dickshunry.

oo actually it's 27 days away, i think
I seem to be forgetting things muddled today.

in 1981 i went on my first ever protest march, against the Springbok Rugby Tour of NZ

Yeah, those were the bad old days (pre 1994, when the ANC took over) I went to quite a few marches meself. Now we just moan about Robert Mugabe or Jacob Zuma.

Sul, for heavens sake, what can I do with your birthday except wish you Happy Birthday when it comes? May I call upon a personal reference from warhead, and maybe even Brock, to say that I am trustworthy? C'mon, Sul, don't be such an old lemon. :D

Um... Why is France spelt with a lower case 'f'?

is 'f' spelled 'f' or 'F'?

or 'ƒ'?

You say "tomato", I say "Fuck off you pedantic cunt, you know exactly what I meant".


Great song, that.

Cos the french are all cunts.

Clearly.

Fucking french

I guess that kind of answers my question.

What's wrong with the French?

Is that contraction "what is" or "what was"?

Are these contractions getting closer together?

Both.

Be aware that English is my second language.

12th of April 1982

And it's a vital part of my banking security. I've posted the rest of the parts on various message boards around the net. There's £12.34 left in the account. Your treasure hunt starts here.

Sul's clarification is important. It's all about whether what is wrong with the french was a problem, or remains an issue really. Sadly, it's 'b'.

They smell.
They're arrogant.
They burn our sheep when they get an arse on.
They strike over the slightest thing and clog up our main way into Europe just to piss us off.
They have no backbone and still hate us despite the fact that we kicked the feckin' Germans out of their country for them when they meekly rolled over and let them in.
They think that bombing a respectable internationally renowned peace promoting organisation will make the fact that they are blowing up nuclear bombs 'alright' and that people will forget about it.
They smell.

Bored now, there is more, but I can't be arsed.

I'm French.

you forgot eurodisney

"There's £12.34 left in the account. Your treasure hunt starts here".

I shall mobilise my African Crime Machine immediately for that, yeah! And I did click on that here, you arse! (said with a :) So, Sul is Aries, no wonder he's so feisty and paranoid to boot! Thanks.

They smell.
They smell.

I laughed my head off at that. Hey man, this is supposed to be the birthday thread that I can call up to wish people happy birthday, but it's turning into a french thread. I really like to match what I know about people's personalities to their star sign even though I know it's bollocks. I'm just a bit bored, you see. But I really like that They Smell They Smell They Smell! That's a bit racist, though don't you think, I mean everybody climbs on me for being South African as though being South African is synonymous with being a racist, but you guys can say whatever you like about the french. I mean French. ?

everybody climbs on me for being South African

syl: exhausted but happy

Me, paranoid? Who told you that? What do you know?

I'd hardly say I'm feisty though. And I get on with other Aries (not sure on the plural of that, dont care that much to look it up, do care enough to justify why it might be wrong) so either that whole astrology thing is crap or I'm adopted.

aries is like sheep

Well, it doesn't make sense to me that a particular thing is happening to one twelfth of the population at one time. Or that a particular personality trait is common to that same group; I mean 580 million people all having the same bad week/temper. Then again, it might be true :(

Salty!/smacks him

damn computer

SuperFunGordon sorry for Brock's comments (if you are really French) and the smelly thing, don't take any notice, he gives everyone a hard time (that's not English) :)

It's alright - I fucking hate gay people, so prejudice is all good in my opinion.

Apparently, my written and spoken English is good, but I sometimes get curse words in the wrong order.

Strange, huh?

you forgot eurodisney

That was the Americans, not the French.

Like You Fuck! instead of Fuck You!?

I fucking hate gay people, so prejudice is all good in my opinion.
Apparently, my written and spoken English is good, but I sometimes get curse words in the wrong order.

Like You Fuck instead of Fuck You?

no, like he meant to say:
"I hate fucking gay people"

which is why he's so riled by his, errrr, interactions with brock

Fuck is a hard word.

The phrase
"I hate fucking gay people"
could mean (I think), that I hate having sex with gay people, or I hate gay people lots, or both ):

Talking of smelly things, Belgium does have really smelly drains.

" I'm French."

Er. So?

;)

Ooer. A french thread and now a gay thread. What tells me you guys don't want to tell me your birthday? SuperFunGordon, when is your birthday? By the way, how long have you been a member of imacal?

Brock: I'd imagine SFG is informing you of his frenchness simply so you can change the "They"s to "You"s as he can now answer for his whole nation.

Bravo that man.

No problem - assuming that you won't mind if I think you are all

a) of below-average intelligence
b) football hooligans
c) drunks
d) racist
e) all of the above

that will be fine.

Syl, I've been a member of IAmCal since before the site revamp (although imacal sounds much more exciting).

My birthday isn't until next year.

I think that sums most of us up, yep.

Are you an old member with a new name? (gee thanks for the compliments by the way)

i'll take 3 (c)s, thanks. and a packet of nuts.

Some c)'s for me, while you're at the bar.

Syl: Haven't we had that conversation? (that's alright - that's the general list of what the French (in fact, the Europeans - you know us, we learn more than one language) think of the English. That, and the fact that you can't stop eating Roast Beef (;
You know the jokes you all tell about the Irish? They're English jokes in the rest of Europe)

Well, I'm half Italian and the other half is about 9 tenths Dutch, with one tenth being Irish, so I am loathe to imagine the awful things Brock must say about me. :) We may have had that conversation; I was born in 1969, the memory is getting a leeetle rusty. Ne ce pas?

I'll have you know, SFG, that I'm learning Spanish. I accidently installed a Spanish print driver and can't be arsed to change it.

And let's be honest, that whole male-female assign to objects is a little bit of a bastard for someone who doesn't do that normally.

yes, I'm annoyed at my own inability to learn other languages

you don't do that male-female assign thing normally?

...

you big gayer

Yeah, the gender thing is the hardest part of learning French/Italian, because all the verbs etc change as well. It's a bugger.

Ciao, Giacomo! Sei gia di ritorno?

I can see how masculine and femenine versions of words is annoying, but I think the English plurals are harder to grasp.

Ox / Oxen / Die / Dice / Mouse / Mice etc etc.

Just stick and 's' on the end, ffs (:

You want something really complicated, try learning Russian.

Sul - are you really learning Spanish because of a printer driver?

9th July 1981.

KFC has three capital letters. Does that mean it gets triple the respect?

SFG. What a silly question.

Well, you never know.

>Russian
nah, Estonian. or Finnish. both completely different language group from any of the HindoEuropean languages (eg english, italian, russian...). e.g. estonian only has "it" for first person pronoun, no "he" or "she"

it's easier to remember english grammar oddities if you remember it's about 3 languages overlaid: primarily norwegian and lowland germanic, with a late sprinkling of french due to the invasion of vikings who'd learnt french then got bored and headed off again. plus some of its grammar just faded away, eg it's actually more correct originally to say "have gotten", but in the period between the settlers hooting off to america and now, it's faded to "have got" in the motherland.

and all that through/though/bough etc spelling stuff was the way the words were actually pronounced way back when. eg. ~1700 you would phonetically say "thruff" not "throo", "k-nicght" not "nyt"

it's easier to remember english grammar oddities if you remember it's about 3 languages overlaid

Seriously? When you need to know the plural of 'mouse' you think "Now, what was 'mouse' in Norwegian again..?"

Of course. Don't you?

"(i also had to look up january in the dictionary. fuck)"

"To work out which month was before February?"

The month before February in the dictionary would be December, shurely? ;)

I don't believe there is £12.34 in Sul's account. The number seems unlikely.

Oh and my birth day is 2nd August 1982

The £12.34 does sound rather unlikely. Any quantity that can be divided by the price of a Stella Tortoise 4-pack and still make a whole number is unlikely to be in there, I imagine.

It's true. I lied. But I actually get 6 cans for a fiver round the Milton. The main newsagent/offy has just been taken over by Co-op. They are charging £1.23 per can. Thems crazy prices!

28|march|1982

4th March 1980

Lucid, I thought you said 9 July 1981. I got happy because I have a fellow Cancerian...what's this 4 March business?

hE WAS ANSWERING FOR lUCY rECORD!!!111111ONEOENOEONEONENOne

and ALLCAPS!

Cannot be

Hi Luce!

Curse you Lucy! I thought you were dead!

Yeah, I'm a cancerian...

Yea the best people are Cancerian; Nelson Mandela, Princess Diana, Doc Lucid and me... ;)

Course I'm not dead. Check your email buddy.

"Remember! Never check email without your email buddy! And learn your hand signals. Sometimes, the only thing between you and email death is your email buddy. I don't want to see ANYBODY here out of sight of their email buddy at any time."

Princess Diana is dead Syl, didn't you get the memo?

but is she?
maybe it's just a huge global conspiracy

Yeah, she's just resting her eyes.

on the dashboard?

i suspect the date on which she was born hasn't changed though

I have Princess Di's funeral on video!!!

"I suspect the date on which she was born hasn't changed though"

Yeah, can she still be a Cancerian despite being dead?

"this month you won't meet a tall dark handsome stranger, in fact you won't meet anyone at all"

30th June 1970

eatmypiano, that's nice, you're also Cancerian and a bit closer to my age. :)

Yeah alfie, Di might be dead, don't I know it - I cried all day in front of the TV, don't ask me why, I never met her. But even though she's dead, while she was alive she was quite an extraordinary person. Those flowers! I have never seen so many flowers in my life. Those flowers were a testimony to who she was.

An adultress and attention seeking media whore?

*tick tick tick*

Re: All the flowers. I thought it was a little in bad taste as she suffered from terrible heyfever. I stole some of them and gave them to a girl. :)

I'll be honest. I didnt care for the woman and I thought she had silly hair.

i was on a monster weekend in devon when the vile di scraped herself down a french underpass.

my english gf at the time refused to speak to me for most of the day after i came back from the shower to see gf big-eyed watching tv:
"princess diana's on"
"is she dead?"
"yes!"
"fantastic!", with heartfelt meaning.

on the way back that arvo, we got held up in a jam on the motorway by heathrow, and saw the royal jet park up, and then the coffin in the back of the hearse entering on the special sliproad next to us.

woohoo!

stupid self-obsessed self-aggrandising publicity monster

for example, on learning that the government would not change the law to allow her to call herself "Royal Highness" after she'd divorced charlie (interestingly, the phenomenal efforts of her publicity machine mean that most english "forget" that the divorce was accorded to her adultery, not his later adultery. humans' group hysteria is fascinating, if frightening.) the "giving" the "charitable" the "philanthropic" diana immediately cancelled all her charity work, and issued press releases and called upon her ex-charities to blame the royal family for forcing her to quit.
the ONLY change was that she couldn't call herself queen.
a MAGNIFICENTLY UNINTENTIONAL HONESTY, from the queen of spin.

she was and is loathsome slime.

Sheesh Salty and alfie…

I didn’t know that she did that with the charities, but what about the good that she did do? A person is never all bad (or all good)…I do think that she courted and used the media that she claimed hunted her down wherever she went, which is hypocritical, but I don’t think she deserves to be called vile, though?

Then again I have been accused of being a big ole softie bleedin' 'eart sap for only seeing people's good points.

It's alright - I fucking hate gay people, so prejudice is all good in my opinion.

Just to clarify, this is a lie, kind of meant to goad you into calling me homophobic so I could call you all xenophobic.
You win, damn you all (:

Yes, you can often safely express you real or imaginary prejudices in here without fear of violent reaction.

However, if you spell something incorrectly, you're likely to be leapt on from a great height from the International Order of Pedants.

...and you have to wear pants, otherwise you're likely to be leapt into from a great height by the International Order of Pants.

# Lawyer: What is your date of birth?
# Witness: July 15th.
# Lawyer: What year?
# Witness: Every year.

that is a gaY JOKE

No, you're thinking of the one where Elton John and George Michael walk into a pub.

backwards

I'm with relaxin500. That is a gay joke.

Oh, actually, I know the one you mean Alfie.

So Elton John and George Michael go into a pub. George tugs on Elton's sleeve and says "I've left my money at home. Can you buy me a pint of Guinness." Elton considers it. Finally, he replies "Only if I can have sex with you in the ass."

ROLF!!11

{edit} Post removed because it was unworthy.

did someone take your funny away wh?

Sorry.

So Elton John and George Michael go into a pub. They study the menu for a bit. Finally Elton agrees that he will only buy George a pint of stout after a good bit of well lubricated ass action. They perform the act, in the amount of time it takes to pour a perfect pint of Guinness. George sips at his pint, whilst Elton studies the food menu. Ordering a Chips and Cheese, he gouges out George's eye with the supplied fork.

Triumphant, upon the table above the prone injured bleeding and defeated George, he utters; "That'll learn you!"

Good Friday.

Doc, I think all that full cream milk has dulled your surrealistic edge. Hope you're feeling better soon.

Hmmm...

Full cream milk?

. . . now I remember something about that this evening . . .

. . . but what was it . . .

** bit like when some unusual think turns up to the door and you think ... "I sent off for that...?" **

Got it. Yeah, that.

Can't believe you didn't like the first joke. I was well proud of that one.

{edit} Another pointless post removed.

What was the joke Alfie alluded to?

I wasn't alluding to anything.

What do you mean I don't do jokes?

What about;

Q. What do the Queen and Picasso have in common?
A. They both had blue periods.

or..

So my sister just had twins. She's named them Garth and Simon.

i quite LIKED the first joke

oh, and that "blue periods" joke is on my list of all-time CLASSICS

Doc, don't worry about it.

%*£$&£?! - there, all the nasty posts are dealt with.

yep, nastiness gets you banned, war!

Woo. We are 50 posts short of 9000 replies. Yeeehah!

It's okay... I wasn't really upset.. always up for some constructive criticism!

So what was Alfie's joke?

Oh, and 10th October 1982

Oh no, now Lucid! When is it?

Bet I can do a worse joke. Here goes:

So Elton John and George Michael go into a pub. Upon entering they realise they've stumbled upon a Strictly Come Dancing regional competition. George says to Elton, "Let's go, I find ballroom dancing extremely tedious and tiring." Before they could leave though, the landlord approaches them excitedly. "George! Elton! Oh my god, you could just save my life", he says, "the booked judges haven't been able to make it due to a bust up over whether Wayne Sleep was the best child catcher in chitty chitty bang bang or Richard O'Brien. Will you two stand in?". Elton, being the nicest man on earth, volunteers them both.
The show starts and the landlord introduces the competition. 5 couples would compete in 3 different dances. Among the entrants was a 3 foot tall Portuguese woman whose name the landlord was unable to pronounce. He simply introduced her as one of the finest disco-dancers in all of Portugal looking for her break over here. Upon hearing this George perked up. He loves the Disco Dancing.
The fist Dance got underway - the Tango. All 5 couples were pretty good, not that George would notice because her fell asleep in the first ten seconds. Elton, however, was really enjoying it. After all the couples had danced their Tango the landlord asked the judges for some quick constructive criticism. Thinking the Portuguese lady had let herself down a little, in broken English he offered some advice of "Hold man closer tiny dancer" then nudged George who, without lifting his head, asked that they "wake him up before they go-go".

Genius!

One more:

Elton John and George Michael walk into a bar, they both let out an excited 'ooooh', it was a gay bar.

Was that a joke?

Can you do better?

THAT sounds like something a girlfriend once said to me

Can you do better?

Maybe. Let's see.

A very distressed woman goes to her doctor with an embarrassing problem.

‘Doctor, ‘ she says, ‘my vagina makes a whistling noise.’

The doctor is amazed as he has never heard anything like it in his life. He refers her to a gynaecologist and he’s never seen anything like it either, but he’s very excited about the phenomenon and asks if he can refer her case to the Royal Society of Gynaecologists, to which she agrees, and she allows him to make a recording of the noise.

As luck would have it, the Royal Society of Gynaecologists Annual Conference is due to take place the following month and the gynaecologist prepares a presentation to make to the whole society.

The day arrives, and at the appointed time he takes to the stage and says, ‘Gentlemen, I have discovered a case unique in our sphere of medicine. Please listen to this recording and see if you can imagine what it could possibly be.’

He plays the recording and for a few seconds there is total silence. Then the President of the Society pipes up, ‘It just sounds like some cunt whistling to me.’

tut tut. War.
/shakes head and wags finger at him

Cal, you were born on a Saturday.

Brock was also bor on a Saturday

Sul was born on a Monday

Doc was born on a Thursday

Alfie was born on a Monday

reitsma was born on a sunday = gay (haha)

eatmypianowasbornononatuesday

warhead was born...oh heck it's too long ago. Sorry. It was a Thursday :)

Moi - 3/10/78 - a Tuesday, I believe.

Syl was born on a Wednesday = woe

Correct Grim, it was a Tuesday = full of grace

hey

im 13teen b-day is march 20th

You're thirteenteen on March 20th? Congratulations. Maybe then you'll be able to spell "I'm" and "thirteen."

^Grumpy old Warhead^^^^ :)