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Heavy topic for a Friday but I'm bored and it will be heavier on Monday :/

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/america...

Are you for or against the death penalty? Which method is most humane?

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against.

the end.

For, but not in the way it's done now.

How do you think it should be done then?

I'm with Grim...

There should be an island, from which there is no escape but lots of cameras and the inmates should be shipped there and encouraged to butcher each other for our entertainment as non-murderers. With spoons or by spooning. Spoon Island it will be called. Presented by Brian Blessed and a naked Cheggers.

haha!

naked cheggers?
that's inhumane.

i can not support this.

against
killing is bad

I'm with su

Some people don't deserve to live.

I can think of numerous examples.

Yes. Kill them. KILL THEM ALL!!!

Quickly and without warning.

"Spoon Island it will be called. Presented by Brian Blessed and a naked Cheggers."

That's genius

Some people don't deserve to live.

I can think of numerous examples.

I agree. Baby-rapists for one. I really can't see the hope of rehabilitating such a person. They get out of jail and continue where they left off. Still not convinced we should be killing them though. Seems a barbaric thing to do. I wish there was some planet we could send them to.

yeah cause non baby rapists are ok

I don't rape any babies and I think I'm sort of alright. :(

yeah cause non baby rapists are ok

What does that even mean? I really don't appreciate sarcasm, su. Let's keep it friendly, okay?

[Edit]

Hello?

Rapists, baby rapists, murderers.... look at Barry George. He's spent the last seven years in prison for the killing of Jill Dando. Now there's a chance he might not have done it.

Thank goodness we don't have capital punishment.

To think they might have killed a man who changed his name to Barry Bulsara, declared he was Freddie Mercury's cousin, without any competetive roller skating experience, leapt over 4 double decker buses, and then got caught trying to break into Kensington Palace with a self-penned poem to Prince Charles. But didn't necessarily kill Jill Dando.

Not to mention killed an innocent man.

Perhaps we shouldn't punish people for crimes, in case they're really innocent.

Freeze them, ala Demolition Man. Take the frozen body to a unit in the North Pole where the climate will keep them frozen, dramatically cutting costs and being environmentally friendly. If at a later stage they are found to be innocent, unfreeze them, ala Demolition Man.

I'm with Sul... although imagine the havoc if the pissed-up-yoof of Greenland sneak up there and 'steal' Myra Hindley or soemthing...

Oh, and WH I wasn't saying we shouldn't punish them... we just probably shouldn't kill them...

"I really don't appreciate sarcasm, su"

Don't appreciate it or don't understand it?

Don't APPRECIATE it.

You should. It's a fine form of wit.

its the lowest form of wit.. which stil makes it wit!

Baby-rapists for one. I really can't see the hope of rehabilitating such a person. They get out of jail and continue where they left off.

Jesus, it's like the Daily Mail has just walked in.

Yes, it's a weird phenomenon : we all get an opinion. Cool huh?

The Daily Mail give out a lot of opinions. You have to collect tokens.
5 tokens for sadly misinformed.
10 tokens for bigot status.
More than 15 tokens and you get to be Jim Davidson for the day.

I don't feel bad about wanting to punish baby rapists.

baby rapists should be kept in baby prison until they grow up

well thanks Che for putting the Big Break tune in my head

What if irrefutable evidence is presented to show that one person killed another? Like a video of a guy shooting another guy in the head for youtube kicks. To the naysayers, is that enough evidence?

or video of a baby raping somebody.

but what if it turned out to be his twin brother?

or the video was of him shooting an already dead body?


we've all seen johnathon creek

exactly, or the tape was altered etc etc

but my final reason is
If we agree that murder is wrong, and we are looking for a punishment for murder, how can that punishment ever be murder.

I'd be happy for rapists to be raped tho
punishment to match the crime and all that

although not for babies to rape them, that would be wrong

but that leaves a lot of unemployed babies! they will turn to crime.

Who would do the raping?

Ja, good point.

Ja, good point. [Bugger.double posting]

Myra Hindley has a really bad press.

I think they're all just jealous of her superstar good looks

Looks like she was quite influenced by Ian Brady en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myra_... - not that I'm blaming it all on him - but I think she might not have committed such crimes if it hadn't been for him.

Brady convinced Hindley that there was no God, and she stopped going to church. She absorbed his philosophies, adopted his interests, and altered her appearance to suit him, bleaching her hair and wearing Germanic clothes. She had no qualms about allowing him to take pornographic pictures of her and of the two of them having sex. They intended to crack the pornographic market but failed. Brady nicknamed her "Myra Hess".

On 21 April 1966, the trial began at Chester Assizes. Prosecuting counsel was Sir Elwyn Jones. It ended on 6 May. Brady was convicted on all three murder charges and sentenced to three concurrent terms of life imprisonment. The judge described Brady as "wicked beyond belief" and "beyond hope of redemption", suggesting that he should never be released. However, the judge also stated his belief that this was not necessarily true of Hindley — and that, with the removal of Brady's presence and his influence over her, she might indeed be capable of a measure of rehabilitation at some point in the future.

Earlier this year I hooked up with a chick that had a Myra Hindley Mugshot hairdo. She was as mad as a box of frogs on fire but horny as fuck. I now cant look at that infamous photo without remembering that night. *sigh*

she's far too pretty to be a bad person

I occasionally order cabs in the name of Myra.

i occasionally order demons to do my bidding in the name of ashtoreth

oh salutation... I do admire your persistance, but you do for a conversation what treacle does to the cogs and wheels of a watch... and oh what a lot of treacle..

ps myra is hawt

oh salutation... I do admire your persistance, but you do for a conversation what treacle does to the cogs and wheels of a watch... and oh what a lot of treacle..

I disagree. I find Sal's posts interesting and informative.

very, very nicely put axeman!
the trick is to skip over sal's posts if they are long or if there are a few of his posts one after the other :D

Or you might read them and learn something. Heaven forbid! ;)

I gues there is always the chance i may learn, but at what cost!

You may know the answer to that if you bothered to read Salty's posts.

Yes, it's a weird phenomenon : we all get an opinion. Cool huh?

Yes, and yours is wrong.

I agree. Baby-rapists for one. I really can't see the hope of rehabilitating such a person. They get out of jail and continue where they left off.

Met them all, have you?
Still, it's not exactly surprising to be seeing a white South African discriminating against groups of people.

:)

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW.

Am I getting you right, Grim? BABY RAPISTS. People who rape babies. What would YOU do to someone who did that to YOUR kid? My opinion is not wrong. I don't give a continental CRAP what anyone says : anybody who is capable of that should be shot.

You weren't convinced we should be killing them three days ago.
I was taking issue with the 'I really can't see the hope of rehabilitating such a person' comment, which is the sort of uninformed panicky crap I hear far too often.

And, just out of interest, 'baby rapists' are amazingly rare.

It was an EXAMPLE of the type of person that I think doesn't deserve to live. And no, I would not kill him. Death is too good. I'd just shoot him full of holes.

And that was a cheap shot about the South African thing. I've lost some respect for you. Below the belt.

Actually, I've had enough.

Bye everyone. Time for me to call it a day.

Lets call it Monday.


See you in the newbies thread, with new plates and a paintjob, in a week or two

;)

I think you're taking things too seriously, Syl. Remember where you are, and the fact that you started a sensitive topic. Grim... had his tongue firmly in his cheek with his comment.

Syl: Imagine a man who is late for work. He is a business man, he's got his briefcase and his mobile and he's going to be late, and on the day of his big meeting, too. As he runs toward the bus stop, the bus he needs overtakes him, heading toward the stop at the other end of the road. Redoubling his efforts, he sprints toward the bus stop, giving it all he's got to get there before the bus, which has now started to let the first passengers in, can depart.
Suddenly, out of nowhere, a woman appears walking a little yappy dog. The man gets his leg tangled in the dog's lead and goes down - hard. His briefcase falls open upon impact with the pavement and his documents scatter every which way. His change flies out of his pockets, and he can feel his mobile cracking as he hits the floor.
Looking up, the man sees the bus pulling away from the stop.
Now, instead of the businessman, imagine it was you.
And instead of the bus, imagine it was 'the point'.

No two white South Africans are the same.
No two 'baby rapists' are either.
Discrimination against anybody is bad, mmm-kay? Everyone has the right to be judged as an individual.

especially me.

it's wrong for society to baby rapists. they should man up.

this website needs some kind of system where you can vote on posts being awesome. just sayin

yeah
where's that cal dude who built it, lets bug him

Like Jade said, he's a lazy fucker, so you could be wasting your time bugging him.

I think you're taking things too seriously, Syl. Remember where you are, and the fact that you started a sensitive topic. Grim... had his tongue firmly in his cheek with his comment.

No, you all dislike me, so you find fault with everything I say. Never mind, I won't be bothering you any more in future. Take care.

That's because there's fault with everything you say.
Like what you've just said, for instance. See you soon!

Look, why can't we talk about something non-controvercial like vegetarianism or the war in Iraq?

All these death penalties and baby raping is getting me down!

I reckon someone will pick up on the fact I can't spell controvertical.

syl unless people agree with you 100% you seem to have 2 states
- unhappy and put out
- carelessly dismiss someone

amazingly this doesn't go down well.
also consider this - you seem to be the only one on iamcal who has a problem with everyone else.

fucks knows we don't all agree all the time, but it's not the end of the world.

Never mind, I won't be bothering you any more in future. Take care.

Hmmmm.

/looks for new user in a few days


Although Che get's to call "I told you so" first.

"get's"?

(doc: so far so good)

Brock never argues with me anymore.
Sniff.

Perhaps if I tell him I'm buying a new car: I'm buying a new car Brockles! It's better than yours!

i think brock just brought a car

Are you sure, Grimothy? I have it on good authority that Brock's getting a 198something Jaguar Vanden Plas.

oh poor grimothy
i think it's becuase brock misses having vic to make out with

gri.mmm's new car:



note hooooj ram-assisted turbocharger intakes

EDIT: dam you, you anti-leeching bastards!

Well, it's ugly enough.

No, I'm getting a planet-destroying Range Rover with hooooooooooge tyres (and a winch and all that off-roady stuff).
No turbocharger, though.

Ah, yes, to take the little woman to Tesco's of a Saturday. Good choice.

tesco's is renowned for its inhospitable terrain.
you'll notice that small businesses wither and die in the presence of a tesco's.

Actually, I'm taking to Bosnia. This is officially 'the discrimination thread' =]

I love tesco's!
I drove my citroen to bosnia, they have asfalt *nods*

Damned perverts.

Having their assfelt

"you can't have assfelt and eat it too"
-- old jungle saying

my advice for a good offroading, grim m...boy: wax. lots of it. and ignore the screaming - it's bosnia, they're used to it.