Posted by
syl, 24th April 2009:
1 Blade Runner (1982)
2 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
3 The Matrix (1999)
4 Alien (1979)
5 The Terminator (1984)
6 Contact (1997)
7 The Thing (1982)
8 Sleeper (1973)
9 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
10 Star Wars (1977)
11 Frankenstein (1931)
12 Gattaca (1997)
13 The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951)
14 Metropolis (1926)
15 Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
16 Aliens (1986)
17 Forbidden Planet (1956)
18 A Clockwork Orange (1971)
19 The Empire Strikes Back (1981)
20 Brazil (1985)
21 The Fly (1986)
22 The Abyss (1989)
23 12 Monkeys (1995)
24 Serenity (2005)
25 Donnie Darko (2001)
Do you agree? Ranking? Any to add?
Posted by
che, 24th April 2009:
Brazil should be higher :)
Posted by
WarHead, 24th April 2009:
With Dudley Moore? But that's not sci-fi.
Clicked on this thread only to say "Brazil should be higher" but some beggar beat me to it! ;)
To be fair, it's overall a good list, despite the order of it being completely on the piss.
But... Contact? Serenity? Get tae fuck.
Posted by
Grim..., 27th April 2009:
Yeah, Serenity should totally be higher.
Posted by
syl, 28th April 2009:
Contact had that stupid irritating woman in it, but it was a nice idea. Jodie Foster. GRRRRRRRR
Nah, Serenity was balls - possibly the least cinematic Sci-Fi flick I've seen (obviously barring Battlefield Earth). It just felt like an extended episode of Firefly and would've been better as a straight-to-DVD jobby in that it was clearly shot for TV. He should really stick to TV and stay the fuck away from film, even though Toy Story was good (he did the screenplay on that innit).
Not a huge Whedon fan anyway though, if I'm honest. I think you need to have flesh tunnels in your ears and collect swords or something to truly appreciate that shit ;)
While I'm on a "killing sacred cows" tip - Donnie Darko can fuck off too - most overrated film ever. Richard Kelly is such a fucking hack.
That said, I loved Southland Tales - not because it was any good (It wasn't. It reaaallly really wasn't), but because of how astonishingly bad it was. A clusterfuck of epic proportions. The fact that David Lynch, Alex Cox and Ridley Scott didn't sue the fuck out of him for the most blatant cases of plagiarism in recent memory is an absolute mystery.
Love it to pieces though.
FWIW, My top 3 would be:
1. Brazil
2. Dr Strangelove
3. Metropolis
Order is flexible but as Brazil is possibly my fave film ever, I've really got to rep for it here.
Posted by
cal, 28th April 2009:
<3 brazil
1. Aliens
2. Brzail
3. Blade Runner
I'm well up for The Terminator being as high as it is. Saw it again the other day on the 'big screen' and it's awesome. Even the bit with the bad special effect robot.
Posted by
WarHead, 28th April 2009:
Why isn't Dark Star on the list? It's dead good.
Posted by
che, 28th April 2009:
Brazil is my #1 also
Now I have the tune in my head and it is likely to remain there for the rest of the week.
Braaaaaziiiiil da dee da dee da daaaaaa
Posted by
cal, 28th April 2009:
terminator is ace, also
Posted by
Grim..., 28th April 2009:
I'd be tempted to sneak Event Horizon onto the list.
Posted by
syl, 28th April 2009:
Grim=wicked
I created the Event Horizon to reach the stars, but she's gone much, much farther than that. She tore a hole in our universe, a gateway to another dimension. A dimension of pure chaos. Pure... evil. When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was alive! Look at her, Miller. Isn't she beautiful?
Where we're going... we don't need eyes to see!
Posted by
che, 28th April 2009:
Where we're going... we don't need eyes to see!
I'm glad that wasn't the last line of the first Back to the Future film, or that whole trilogy could have turned out quite differently.
Posted by
cal, 29th April 2009:
i've not seen metropolis. just started torrenting it
Posted by
Brock, 29th April 2009:
By which you mean "Ordered from Amazon in a legitimate manner", I assume, Mr Henderson.
Posted by
syl, 29th April 2009:
Oh fuck off agent Smith ;)
LOL
where is "Enemy Mine"? i'd rate that about top.
"Gattaca" a close second.
"Aeon Flux" was surprisingly good as a movie too.
arsepuppy:
Nah, Serenity was balls... It just felt like an extended episode of Firefly
wellllll... that was kinda the POINT.
but still, i'd be surprised if you (as a non-fan) picked up on the bits that took it up from movie to opus.
The pace is, if anything, too rich. I've read some other reviews and they appear to have missed at least half of the movie. And I'm being charitable there. Very charitable. For example, not one —not ONE— has commented on the moment where a major character, wounded with no hope of help and hence expecting to die slowly, goes to commit suicide and completely accidentally discovers a friend's tricky way out, and in the split second of realising there's suddenly an option, chooses to keep trying.
i had two self-professed FANS ask me what the hell i was talking about, so what hope have non-fans got?
Posted by
syl, 3rd May 2009:
Watched Beowolf last night. Enjoyed it. Che, how do they do that?
wellllll... that was kinda the POINT.
but still, i'd be surprised if you (as a non-fan) picked up on the bits that took it up from movie to opus.
The pace is, if anything, too rich. I've read some other reviews and they appear to have missed at least half of the movie. And I'm being charitable there. Very charitable. For example, not one —not ONE— has commented on the moment where a major character, wounded with no hope of help and hence expecting to die slowly, goes to commit suicide and completely accidentally discovers a friend's tricky way out, and in the split second of realising there's suddenly an option, chooses to keep trying.
i had two self-professed FANS ask me what the hell i was talking about, so what hope have non-fans got?
This is the problem really. How can it possibly be among the top 25 of all time when it casts its net so narrowly? If it only works as a companion piece to a minority interest show, it's not a good "movie" at all. A die hard fan of the parent product will naturally love it by its very nature, but on a wider scale (this is after all a "top 25 of all time" deal) does it belong?
I have a similiar issue with Richard Kelly's stuff. Donnie Darko to a certain degree relied on its supporting media, such as the website, to carry some of the narrative weight, to the point where certain key plot points were missing from the film and had to be "found" elsewhere. Though some liked this, the fact that he was unable to keep the narrative within the main piece ("Southland Tales" suffered from the same problem), is really a major issue. If you can't make the film somewhat self contained, so that a fresh audience can consume it and go home with some sort of story, then you have a problem. Obviously, certain genres can get away with this sense of detached vagueness (surrealism, for example), but since sci-fi is essentially about creating worlds, this is an issue.
With you on "Enemy Mine", though. That was great.
>This is the problem really. How can it possibly be among the top 25 of all time when it casts its net so narrowly
good point
>With you on "Enemy Mine", though. That was great.
someone else who's seen it!!
kick arse movie, wasn't it?
Posted by
syl, 4th May 2009:
*makes mental notes*
Posted by
che, around 6th May 2009:
"Watched Beowolf last night. Enjoyed it. Che, how do they do that?"
They take real actors, and they leech the life out of them, so they look slightly wrong to the human eye. Then they call it progress...
Nah, To tell you the truth I haven't seen it.
Watched Watchmen at an Imax in holland this week though. That was fairly awesome.
Posted by
WarHead, around 6th May 2009:
So, not only are you logging in on Miki's account, but you're moving in on the rest of her life.
Posted by
che, around 7th May 2009:
Miki did drive us to the film, which was very nice of her.
Posted by
Miki, around 10th May 2009:
yea but you're taking over the driving next time as well
Posted by
che, 11th May 2009:
:(