Discussion » Newbie topic - July 2008

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Posted by cal, around 1st July 2008:
 
Welcome to iamcal.com - tell us who you are in this topic and if we like you you'll gain access to the rest of the site.
Posted by Uncle Moc, around 1st July 2008:
 
Me neither.

(darn! July happened!)
Posted by Anne Frank, around 1st July 2008:
 
We demand an SMS roundup!
Posted by Anne Frank, around 1st July 2008:
 
Salman Rushdie?
Posted by che, 1st July 2008:
 
Oh god
Posted by WarHead, 1st July 2008:
 
Why is the linklog suddenly growing at such an alarming rate?
Posted by cal, around 2nd July 2008:
 
sms: i haven't had any for aaages

linklog: i started reading my email again yesterday
Posted by Andre, around 4th July 2008:
 
I want to see the eel!
Posted by Grim..., around 4th July 2008:
 
mr kastner has passed me a silly chain thing, only not too silly since it's about programming. amy hoy did one too. but i don't have a long-form blog!

So put it in a forum topic, then.
Posted by Intermates, around 10th July 2008:
 
Hi there, just looking around this site to see what its about. Looking for a place to advertise a new website, not sure if this is the place? Can somebody tell me if its allowed to post a link, or is that not OK?
Posted by Miki, around 11th July 2008:
 
sure
Posted by masakatsu, around 11th July 2008:
 

I've absconded from b3ta/links, in a concerted effort to learn how to code properly. So I've been lurking at the publish section, going through the php articles line by line. Just thought I'd pop my head up and say hello! :)
Posted by Miki, around 11th July 2008:
 
hello!
Posted by bump, around 11th July 2008:
 
So I need to reply to this topic with something either witter or relevant for permission to the rest of the site?
Posted by Andre, around 11th July 2008:
 
You hear me, I want to see the eel!
Posted by masakatsu, around 12th July 2008:
 
Hello Miki,

bump, I think we need to post something, just to prove we aren't trying to sell viagra, or inform them that they've won the eurolottery and can they reply to your yahoo account. ;)
Posted by Miki, around July 2008:
 
yeah I know it's a pain, but we've had a lot of weirdos.
so tell us a bit about yourself and witty and relevant are distinct bonusses
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around July 2008:
 
Masakatsu - that's 100% correct. Basically Cal has the monopoly on viagra sales and eurolottery tickets on this site; this is just an effective way of keeping the competition out of the game. He's a smooth operator.

Andre: Here we are sir:

Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 
I had a feeling this site was a front for a tawdry 419 scam. The clues are in the workthroughs in his articles :)

echo "Dear ".$mugname."\n";
echo "I writing to you as lawyer for ".$elpresidente."\n";
...

That's one fine looking eel
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around July 2008:
 
You are Mr Akamba and I claim my $4,600,000,000 paid into my account of which you will recieve $5,000,999 on successful reciept.
Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 

*looks in bank account.

Hi again,
I'm terribly sorry, instead of depositing $5,000,999 like we agreed, you appear to have withdrawn my entire life savings. Simple mistake, if you could rectify it as soon as possible I'd be most appreciative.

*waits
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around July 2008:
 
Tom Waits?
Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 

Tom Waits for no man.

And on an oddly coincidental tangent, you've reminded me it's now less than two weeks to his Edinburgh gig! :D
Posted by Miki, around July 2008:
 
may I point you to this highlight of iamcal history www.iamcal.com/discuss/topi...
sadly lacking the superb artwork that chandler made (ie a passport for MrT and MrT holding up a sighn saying "I want to help you Mr Akamba"
Posted by Miki, around July 2008:
 
your name is very long, can we make it shorter?
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around July 2008:
 
Miki - pictures are archived on www.scamorama.com/mista-t.html
Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 
I'm just reading that thread now, it's divine :D

Have you seen the one on 419eater, where he got the scammer to carve a Commodore 64 out of wood?

Here

And I've got no probs with shortening the nick.. mas? :)
Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 
Brilliant! The phone call to the Queen is an inspired play :D
Posted by Miki, around July 2008:
 
welcome aboard mas!
Posted by Andre, around July 2008:
 
I have eel! There is eel!
Posted by Andre, around July 2008:
 
Wow I like the chick with the eel!
Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 
Cheers Miki

Eels, up inside ya, makin' an entrance where they can!
Posted by Saltation, around July 2008:
 
i think we have a keeper
Posted by che, around July 2008:
 
Ah, A boosh fan.
Posted by Andre, around July 2008:
 
A growl keeper?
Posted by masakatsu, around July 2008:
 
I got hooked after seeing the Secret Policeman's Ball.
Posted by Miki, around July 2008:
 
I don't know what that means and I was expecting eel pron
Posted by Saltation, around July 2008:
 
we demand eel pron!
Posted by masakatsu, around 18th July 2008:
 
Is this an eelpron webring then?
Posted by Miki, around 18th July 2008:
 
google loves us so if it isn't now it will be soon
Posted by beargod, around 19th July 2008:
 
I bet if we googled DUPE_1 we would get this site
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around 19th July 2008:
 
I don't think google loves us as much as it used to. Maybe Cab had to take drastic action to overwhelm the surge of Micheal Jakcson Spremmers.
Posted by sal, around 19th July 2008:
 
why can't I post replies >:(
Posted by syl, around 19th July 2008:
 
You should be able to, Sal. Your name is not coming up in pink. (Pink means the person is not approved yet)
Posted by sal, around 20th July 2008:
 
it says I'm a n00b :(
Posted by masakatsu, around 20th July 2008:
 
I thought I was the noob.

Maybe it's infectious. You've caught teh n00b!
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around 20th July 2008:
 
Afternoon Sal!

I think you might have to kick Cal in the shins until he approves.
Posted by WarHead, around 20th July 2008:
 
I don't think he's likely to approve being kicked in the shins.
Posted by Andre, around 23rd July 2008:
 
I demand another eel!
Posted by jeffry, around 23rd July 2008:
 
I'm posting here because I might get more replies from random people - I have a question.

Is it just a myth that if you leave your mobile phone charger plugged in and the power on but with no phone attached, it still uses power? I want scientific answers and am fully expecting one from salty.
Posted by WarHead, around 23rd July 2008:
 
Yeah, Salty will defo give you one. ;0)
Posted by eatmypiano, around 23rd July 2008:
 
It's a transformer. Transformers work by magic involving coils of copper wire. It's not actually magic but I really can't be arsed.

However, to answer your question, there are two coils of wire. The primary winding is just connected to the live and neutral lines of the mains plug so it forms a circuit even if the phone isn't plugged it. Because the resistance is higher if the phone isn't connected the charger uses less electricity BUT it still uses electricity.

Google for "induction law" if you really want to know about the bits I can't be arsed to explain.
Posted by Miki, around 23rd July 2008:
 
ok excellent, a smart person with a coherent story!

now for round two:

Is it really bad for rechargeable batteries to be charged if they are full (ie. leave them on the charger all the time).
Posted by eatmypiano, around 23rd July 2008:
 
Depends on the type of battery. Sintered plate Nickel Cadmium batteries suffer from something called "memory effect" which is now a phrase used to describe anything that goes wrong with a battery. Fact is all batteries have a limited life span and the way you treat them determines their life. Throwing them out of the window of a train on a way to work limits their usefulness for example.

Also if you're leaving a device with a battery in it constantly plugged in, doesn't that defeat the object? MOBILE phone, PORTABLE computer...

Anyway - depends on the battery technology but anything bought in the past decade or so - no.
Posted by Andre, around 23rd July 2008:
 
I am so naked right now
Posted by jeffry, around 23rd July 2008:
 
thanks emp - i can now smugly tell someone at work he's wrong - and this guy is an advertising creative so what does that tell you? Adverts are all LIES.
Posted by eatmypiano, around 24th July 2008:
 
Which agency?
Posted by masakatsu, around 24th July 2008:
 
The mobile charger thing. Apparently when not plugged in they use >0.5W,
David MacKaye - University of Cambridge
Posted by bjorn, around 24th July 2008:
 
abolish the holy roman pedophile church

katolskaeuhydrahelvetet.blo...

vv sprid

Avskaffas
Democracy, science, etc. during the 100 years = and not abolished the non-developed, true, liberating and non-disinterested projects (to kk).
Self (paedophilia, fine buildings, thick smack stomachs and wine as pisseriet in ancient monasteries = fin righteousness). Gamle Luther gave the course a boot and became "I protest" (Protestant).

2000 years of skithistoria
Original, superior, women prostitutes, genera Bora / Medicis influence of horse-trading, haggling and murder and lie and ränksmiderier on this helvetstron (cf. old Byzantine hell where bla women had influence = may well have been a female pope once)

It may itself seek info

Legend, prophecy (based on human empirical work and obvious prediction and conclusion = vicious helvetskyrka).
There is no (tips on lotto and will continue with the conclusion of tex Satan takes over the horse because all I have experienced).

Did themselves on the beach as it says in johannes revelation
A genklonexperiment in the catacombs orchestrated by nazistpåven Råttan Benedict ( "I'm going to make a new world")
What world is this?

culbreath.wordpress.com/200...

A question is who are the barbarians?

In the Middle Ages (like hanging after all this kärleksreligion äggtjuv and fisketjuv in England and France, among others).
Dom söp down the judgement in bla Provence (and sold the harvest expensive and lived loppan themselves).
Exiles in Revenes.

A righteous revenge for all paedophilia, prostitution gross (bla Russian monasteries = no sexual needs could not be performed there) and bla Catholic smaller states (Genoa tex galärflotta as a punishment and the legalization of brothels)
It was hanging up the judgement in the trees and took just rov

vinakro.blogspot.com
Posted by Saltation, around 24th July 2008:
 
@#$%^&*
(oo weird browser/posting hiccup)
Posted by Saltation, around 24th July 2008:
 
saltation is SO last year

eatmypiano is the new black
Posted by ursixc9, around 28th July 2008:
 
Hi there, I just finish reading your book "Building Scalable Web Sites" and I'm confused on a few things. Is there a place where I can ask questions on scaling web sites?? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Posted by R1(4RD0, 29th July 2008:
 

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Posted by R1(4RD0, 29th July 2008:
 
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Posted by R1(4RD0, 29th July 2008:
 
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Posted by eatmypiano, 29th July 2008:
 
How long did that take you to type?
Posted by WarHead, 29th July 2008:
 
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Posted by Saltation, 29th July 2008:
 
i say, warhead old man, surely to maintain apposite consistency in your droll satire "7|-|3" could perhaps have better been typed "73|-|"?
Posted by Miki, around 29th July 2008:
 
Grim... used to have a leet translator gadget. saves you thinking about it
Posted by Saltation, around 29th July 2008:
 
hey, related to ursixc9's comment re Building Scalable Web Sites:
i was just reminded of this:
www.newscientist.com/articl...
"Massive experiments generate huge amounts of data. We need to find ways to secure it."

cal, if you're bored and would like to leave a lasting and PROFOUND legacy for all of society --human-hacking at its finest-- it occurs to me you're in an ideal position to do so.

basically, scientists generate rather large amounts of data (eg, the large hardon collider in CERN alone is expected to either destroy the earth in an artificial blackhole or generate 450 terabytes of pure raw numeric ascii data) and a few people are looking to find a way to not just capture it and future-proof that capturing and safety-trap its backups, but to facilitate access to it in an ideally platform-/tool-agnostic manner, and also to provide Social/behavioural elements: privacy (BIG/DEEP issue with eg medical data), ranking, rating, protection from vandals, non-B&W treatment of politics-/profit-/bandwagon- influenced "data", etc.

and when i say "a few people", the US govt alone has already budgetted $100m for this project. the EU and the aussies are looking at similar projects.

it occurs to me that you (and say the S3 boys, or google) are in a great position with freakarse skills honed by brilliant heuristic experience to make a SERIOUS contribution to this sort of indefinitely-scalable shared-data problem. with useful social elements on top. this is the sort of thing a handful of geniuses could do and more to the point do WELL, where a myriad of 6-Sigma idiots will simply spunk hundreds of millions achieving garbage.

if it's done well, the whole world benefits. in a serious "we just changed the way people live" engineering/science sense. think: dna. think: physics. (just by way of wholly unrelated example: silicon chips came from a putting-together of a socially-driven "problem" with some truly obscure "pure" research)
and not just now but for the foreseeable future.

flickr's great. but, you know, creating a fundamental step-change in the pace of the entire globe's scientific and medical and engineering endeavours is kinda...
well, call me a sad fucker but it makes THIS geek's eyes water just thinking about it.

just a thought.
Posted by WarHead, around 29th July 2008:
 
Grim... used to have a leet translator gadget. saves you thinking about it


You don't think I'd waste any time on that shit, do you? Too old, for one thing. So I used 73|-| first translator I found, at brenz.net
Posted by Saltation, around 29th July 2008:
 
google > grim...?!

:O
Posted by eatmypiano, 30th July 2008:
 
the large hardon collider in CERN


Some sort of gay porn?
Posted by che, 30th July 2008:
 
"well, call me a sad fucker but it makes THIS geek's eyes water just thinking about it."

Makes a change from the cucumber you usually use.

;)
Posted by WarHead, 30th July 2008:
 
Ha ha hah ha hahahaaaaaaa .... it's a fucking HADRON collider. I thought it was Salti's typo, but even CERN can get it wrong.

The WHAT collider?
Posted by eatmypiano, 30th July 2008:
 
No, it's definitely a hardon collider

largehardoncollider.com/nyt...
Posted by Saltation, 31st July 2008:
 
the large hardon collider in CERN

Some sort of gay porn?


i was wondering if anyone would notice that. it always occurs to me when i see it in print, so i like to write it that way.

high-energy YAOUI pr0n!! those kinky swiss physicists. all guys, you'll note. banging hardons together in dark tunnels under their offices. then writing sweaty mathematical slashfic "reports", boasting about their latest bang and posting pics of the splatters left behind.
Posted by Meatwood Flack, around August 2008:
 
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